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DigYourself

Mar 29, 2015, 1:15 PM

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We would like to test drive a Subaru Forrestor. Looks like there is a dealership in Polanco and Pedregal. I've looked at the metro map and don't see a Pedregal stop. If we come into Taxquena can we get to Pedgegal via metro ? We would also want to spend the night in Zona Roza near the angel. Thanks



La Isla


Mar 29, 2015, 4:44 PM

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We would like to test drive a Subaru Forrestor. Looks like there is a dealership in Polanco and Pedregal. I've looked at the metro map and don't see a Pedregal stop. If we come into Taxquena can we get to Pedgegal via metro ? We would also want to spend the night in Zona Roza near the angel. Thanks


Where exactly is this dealership? In Mexico City, the Metro doesn't usually go to the more posh neighborhoods, such as Polanco and any place with Pedregal in its name. You will probably have to take a taxi to get to this dealership from Taxqueña. There are several hotels in the Zona Rosa near El Angel. Any special reason for wanting to stay in the Zona Rosa? I know a nice funky family hotel across Reforma from the Zona Rosa in a much quieter neighborhood.


(This post was edited by La Isla on Mar 29, 2015, 8:33 PM)



DigYourself

Mar 30, 2015, 4:51 AM

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The dealership is in La Magdalena Contreras on Anillo Periférico - Blvrd Adolfo Ruiz Cortines. It looks like the red line for MetroBus (which we have never been on) might get us in the ballpark (the university). If time permits we would also like to check out the Perisur mall (which we have never been to). Does the MetroBus zip along unimpeded by traffic the way the Metro does ?

In Zona Rosa we usually stay at the Galeria Plaza Reforma on Hamburgo. I've been there maybe 5 or 6 times. My wife many times for business - but we are open to new ideas. What is you place called ? Thanks

btw - have you been to this place ? It is not quite Texas - but very good and we try to eat there when we visit DF.
http://www.pgbbq.mx/



esperanza

Mar 30, 2015, 8:20 AM

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The Metrobús (Line 1, which travels Av. Insurgentes from Indios Verdes in the north to El Caminero, in the far south) will take you to Perisur--there is a stop in front of the mall you mentioned.

You'll need to buy a multi-purpose card, good for use on the Metro and the Metrobús, in order to ride the Metrobús. It's well worth the 15 peso cost for the card; you can add funds to the card up to 99 pesos at a time.

The Metrobús uses a dedicated lane and you will experience a fast, clean, comfortable ride--as long as you ride during non-peak hours. After 10AM until 1PM, after 3PM until 6PM are your best bets.

Here's a link to the Line 1 Metrobús map. Click on the square next to any station name for a look at that station. http://www.alaingarcia.net/...metrobus_linea_1.php

Have a great time here and good luck with your vehicle.

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DigYourself

Mar 30, 2015, 9:33 AM

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Thanks for the info. I don't want to seem cheap but when we ride the metro we just show our INAPAM cards to the police officer at the turnstile. Does MetroBus honor INAPAM ?



Maesonna

Mar 30, 2015, 9:38 AM

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An easy and direct way to get from your car dealership to Perisur would be to just hop on any bus that goes along the Periférico in the appropriate direction. The buses stick to the collector lanes of the Periférico. When you are at the dealer, you will no doubt see a constant stream of buses, and people flagging them and getting on them, and it will be clear how to proceed by watching their example.
Alternately, you could also flag a taxi, you will probably also see people doing this in the same place.

When leaving Perisur, you can get onto the Insurgentes Metrobús (Line 1) to return to your hotel area. There is a walkway to the Metrobús station from the outdoor parking lot at Perisur (on the Periférico/Insurgentes side).

We live in the far south of Mexico City and Perisur is our nearest big, big mall, so it’s familiar territory to us – if you have any further questions about what’s at the mall, or about getting around in this part of the city, I can try to answer them.


(This post was edited by Maesonna on Mar 30, 2015, 2:01 PM)



Maesonna

Mar 30, 2015, 9:40 AM

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No first-hand experience, but the Metrobús website says age 70 and up ride the Metrobús free showing their INAPAM credencial.
(In other words, no free ride if you’re still a youngster in your 60’s.)


(This post was edited by Maesonna on Mar 30, 2015, 11:17 AM)



La Isla


Mar 30, 2015, 9:45 AM

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I went to Perisur once and was not blown away, but then I'm not a big fan of malls, so perhaps my comment is not that useful! I have found the Metrobus much nicer for travel than the Metro, but it does get very crowded during rush hours and doesn't really zip along the streets when there's lots of traffic, which is most of the time!

The hotel I like is the Casa González: it's not a modern chain hotel, but does have a lovely large walled patio and garden where you can hang out in between bouts with Mexico City traffic and crowds. Here's the link: http://www.hotelcasagonzalez.com/.

I've never been to this place (nor to Texas), and I must say its name does turn me off, but if you like it, that's all that matters. :-)



DigYourself

Mar 30, 2015, 10:53 AM

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We are not big shoppers either - most times when I need something I get it via ebay / Amazon and have it shipped here. Last year we went to a humongous mall in Sante Fe. We didn't buy anything but it was by far the largest mall we have EVER seen. Cuernavaca has this tiny little Galerias with a LiverPool, Sanbornes and some other non-descript shops. I think Perisur might be somewhere in the middle and it is close enough that we could drive there if it was important enough.

Thanks for the link. We will investigate.



Maesonna

Mar 30, 2015, 11:26 AM

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I guess Perisur could be classed as a smallish huge mall, or a very big medium-sized mall. The anchor stores at the two ends are Liverpool and Palacio de Hierro, with a Sears half-way in the middle. The movie theatre is a Cinépolis and it includes IMAX, 3D, and VIP options (the ones with big cushy reclining seats and waiters). I mention this to give you an idea of the size – our local ‘big’ malls only have two anchor stores – one at each end – no Palacio, and no special theatres in the cinema.

If you want a nice place to eat in Perisur, a bit special, my personal recommendation is the Argentinean restaurant Barrio Tinto.


(This post was edited by Maesonna on Mar 30, 2015, 11:32 AM)



DigYourself

Mar 30, 2015, 11:48 AM

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Thanks for the restaurant suggestion.

Ya know - we like to watch Netflix - but I think the only three movies I've seen in a theater were Woodstock, 2001 a space odyssey and Top Gun. Perhaps there were one or two others - but not many more. I guess I just prefer the recliner and fridge at home.



Maesonna

Mar 30, 2015, 11:56 AM

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I know, right? :) I go to the movie theatre much more often than you – at least once every two or three years. That’s why I qualified my description by saying that my reason for mentioning the special screens was to give you an idea of the size of the mall (i.e., not necessarily that I thought that you would find it an attraction).



DigYourself

Mar 30, 2015, 11:58 AM

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I understood your point. I was just smiling (to myself) - sorry.

Thanks for your ideas!


(This post was edited by cuerna1 on Mar 30, 2015, 12:48 PM)



esperanza

Mar 30, 2015, 11:01 PM

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The Metrobús honors your INAPAM card if you are over 70. In the Metro, it's a free ride if you are over 60, as Maesonna said.

If you're under 70, the Metrobús costs 6 pesos per person per ride. There are places where you can transfer at no further charge. For example, if you're under 70, you can go from the any Line 1 Metrobús stop to the stop for Mercado de la Merced, including a transfer to Line 4 at the Buenavista stop, for 6 pesos. I think the Metrobús is a fabulous alternative to driving.

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DigYourself

Apr 1, 2015, 12:17 PM

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We had a birthday breakfast with my former Spanish teacher this morning. She is always full of great info. Turns out there is a small Pullman de Moralos bus that leaves Cuernavaca every hour and goes directly to the Perisur mall ! (It also comes back once an hour as well). Given that - we will probably simply take that bus, visit the auto dealership, check out the mall, have a nice lunch and return the same day.

I mention this to you all, If you ever want to get out of the city for a short trip - looks like Cuernavaca is a real option.



La Isla


Apr 1, 2015, 12:57 PM

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We had a birthday breakfast with my former Spanish teacher this morning. She is always full of great info. Turns out there is a small Pullman de Moralos bus that leaves Cuernavaca every hour and goes directly to the Perisur mall ! (It also comes back once an hour as well). Given that - we will probably simply take that bus, visit the auto dealership, check out the mall, have a nice lunch and return the same day.

I mention this to you all, If you ever want to get out of the city for a short trip - looks like Cuernavaca is a real option.


This is only a good option for those chilangos who live in the far southern reaches of Mexico City. It would take me something like an hour and a half to get to Perisur from where I live in the center of the city. For me, a much better option is to catch the bus at Taxqueña, a much shorter trip on the Metro.

I hope you find the car of your dreams at the dealership!



DigYourself

Apr 1, 2015, 1:24 PM

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But I wasn't addressing my post to you personally . Obviously Mexico City is a large city and people live all over the place. If my info isn't useful to you - perhaps it will be to someone else - now or in the future. I believe Maesonna mentioned that she lived in the South of Mexico City - perhaps the info will be of some use to her - or perhaps she would never get on a small bus - I don't know...



La Isla


Apr 1, 2015, 1:51 PM

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But I wasn't addressing my post to you personally . Obviously Mexico City is a large city and people live all over the place. If my info isn't useful to you - perhaps it will be to someone else - now or in the future. I believe Maesonna mentioned that she lived in the South of Mexico City - perhaps the info will be of some use to her - or perhaps she would never get on a small bus - I don't know...


I understand. And I mentioned a more convenient place to catch a bus to Cuernavaca for those of us who don't live in the extreme southern end of the city. I don't believe the buses that go to Cuernavaca are small, are they? Just the normal size intercity buses that you find all over the country.



DigYourself

Apr 1, 2015, 2:03 PM

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We have only used Pullman of Morelos (to date) but we have used them rather frequently (airport, Sante Fe, embassy, Taxquena etc). Taxquena and Airport are big luxury buses (although on the top of the line buses there is no INAPAM discount - but the experience is very similar one way or the other). The bus to Perisur (like the bus to Sante Fe) maybe hold 15 passengers (probably commuters) and also give no discount. But the prices are still very affordable.



Maesonna

Apr 1, 2015, 3:57 PM

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Interesting! After you’ve done your trip, I would be interested to know how much it cost, and where in Perisur one should look for that bus.

I looked up where the Subaru Pedregal dealer is – it’s quite close to Perisur – looks like about 3 km on the map. You will practically just hop on the bus and hop off again a little ways farther along the Periférico.

To get back to Perisur, you will have to cross to the other side of the Periférico. I can’t tell from the map where your nearest pedestrian bridge is, but no doubt they can tell you at the car dealer if it isn’t visible. At Perisur, the pedestrian bridge is right at the mall.



La Isla


Apr 1, 2015, 3:59 PM

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Well, you learn something new everyday on Mexconnect. I had no idea there were smaller buses making the run from Cuernavaca to Perisur and Santa Fe. I hope they're lots more comfortable and safer than the odious "microbuses" that are still so common on the streets of Mexico City.


(This post was edited by La Isla on Apr 1, 2015, 4:02 PM)



DigYourself

Apr 1, 2015, 5:29 PM

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No movies - but relatively plush - as long as there is no one snoring.



La Isla


Apr 1, 2015, 6:32 PM

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If snoring were the only problem on the microbuses . . . :-)



DigYourself

Apr 6, 2015, 11:34 AM

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Well we were near the bus station today so we purchased our tickets for later this week. 125 pesos per person per segment. No Inapam discount. The bus takes us to a Hotel Royal near Perisur - where we will also return from. The bus leaves here 19 minutes after each hour and leaves Perisur at 50 minutes after each hour.

Is there anything else in that neck of the woods we should check out while we are there ?



Maesonna

Apr 6, 2015, 12:17 PM

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If the Hotel Royal is the one the map showed me, you'll arrive on the other side of the Periférico from both Perisur and the car dealership. If I got that right, you'll need to cross over the Periférico if going to the car dealer first.

I can't think of a lot of points of interest right around there, but you might want to visit Cuicuilco if pyramids interest you (it's across from Perisur). Cuicuilco is unique for being one of the few round pyramids, but I don't think there's a lot to see there. •Are either of you into cake decorating? There's a small but very well-stocked cake decorating supply store near the car dealer. •Do you like authentic Japanese food? There's a small, very nice restaurant run by a Japanese family in the same area. •Books (in Spanish)? The head office of the FCE publishing company, with attached bookstore is just off the Periférico about halfway between the car dealer and the Hotel Royal.



DigYourself

Apr 6, 2015, 12:41 PM

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Thanks.

Can you tell us a little more about name/location for the Japanese restaurant ? That is something we have never had here in Mexico - except perhaps for the sushi offered by Costco.

Also - some good friends are from Vera Cruz and returned from Christmas holidays with some incredible coffee from there. Turns out we can buy same coffee from a place called Bola De Ora, Anillo Periferico Blvrd Adolfo Lopez Mateos 4268, Coyos 04500 Jardines del Pedregal San Angel. Is that anywhere nearby ?



Maesonna

Apr 6, 2015, 12:55 PM

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I'm sorry I can't be more exact about the Japanese restaurant. It used to in a different location, and then it moved to the area you're going to visit. My brother-in-law told me where it moved to but I don't remember the detailed explanation. So, I checked the map and found this, which is consistent with the area he told me it was, although I can't be positive it's the same restaurant I'm thinking of. I'd guess it might be good, whether it's the right one or not, because, according to the map, it's very near the Japanese school.

As for the Bola de Ora coffee, I copied the info you posted into the Google Maps search box and it showed up just across the Periférico from the Hotel Royal and about 150 m. west (assuming I've identified the right hotel).



DigYourself

Apr 6, 2015, 12:58 PM

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My wife called the coffee place and they said they were 15 minutes (I suppose via taxi) from Perisur - that is why I asked. No problem - we will take the info and ask around when we get there.


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Maesonna

Apr 6, 2015, 1:02 PM

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Yes, that's consistent with what the map showed me. It's much closer to the Hotel Royal than to Perisur – you might be able to work that to your advantage when planning your visit. If you spend some time with Google Maps before you go, checking out where all these places are relative to each other, it will probably save you a lot of asking and being (mis)directed.


(This post was edited by Maesonna on Apr 6, 2015, 1:03 PM)



DigYourself

Apr 8, 2015, 4:49 AM

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Well we spent yesterday visiting Pedregal. It was a beautiful place once you got a couple blocks away from the Periferico - very similar to Cuernavaca (but I think much more expensive). The area around Perisur reminded at times of areas of Puebla.

Our mission was a success in that we picked up our coffee (if you haven't tried that brand you should), we drove a Subaru Forester (the best option we have found yet for a new car) and we got to see the Perisur mall (about 3 times the size of the mall in Cuernavaca and about 1/4 the size of the mall in Sante Fe).

I'm not sure I described the small bus we used. It is a very plush vehicle. Very similar to getting onto a new jet but with more personal space. Coming into DF the bus dropped us off right at the mall. At that point we had to ask around for the proper bus to get on for the coffee place. The bus driver helped us find the strip mall the shop was in. The second bus driver (for the Subaru dealer) was less helpful and dropped us a couple miles off the mark.

One thing we had kind of overlooked was the tenacia(?) you all who live in DF are subjected to. If we do buy a car outside Morelos we will have to work out some logistics on how we transfer it here etc.

We didn't spend much time at the Perisur yesterday. To be honest we got tired from all the walking we had done. It is a very nice mall. The Sears is about 50X nicer than the one we have in Cuernavaca - where they do little more than opening boxes with a razor and throwing them out on the sales floor. I have big feet (size 13) and did find a sporting goods store that has perhaps 6 different running shoes in my size. Would never find that in Cuernavaca.

At the end of the day we set out to find the Hotel Royal and the Pullman stop). The hotel is NOT directly across from the Perisur. That was a hike - and when we mentioned that to the girl at the Pullman counter she smiled.

Anyway - thank you all for you help and suggestions.



esperanza

Apr 8, 2015, 6:43 AM

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One thing we had kind of overlooked was the tenacia(?) you all who live in DF are subjected to. If we do buy a car outside Morelos we will have to work out some logistics on how we transfer it here etc.


Cuerna, unless your new vehicle costs $250,000 pesos or more, there is no tenencia due in the Distrito Federal.

Tenencia en Distrito Federal 2015
Habrá un subsidio del 100% en el pago de tenencia para los capitalinos que tengan un automóvil cuyo valor depreciado sea menor a 250 mil pesos.

Here's the link with the information for every state. Scroll down until you see Distrito Federal.
http://losimpuestos.com.mx/tenencia-2015/

You will want to consider very carefully whether to buy a vehicle outside the state where you plan to license it. The change-over can be both time consuming and expensive. IMHO, it would be good to investigate with the Morelos licensing office before making the decision.

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