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Casa

May 25, 2011, 4:32 PM

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Well the Ley de Migración was signed yesterday by president Calderon and published today in the Diario Official.

As I alluded to back in February there are changes! (for all foreigners in Mexico NOT only Central American migrants)




The new IDs are called Tarjeta de Residencia (Temporario or Permanente)

Gone are Non-inmigrante, inmigrante and Inmigrado and no more FM2, FM3
Visitante remains but there are changes there as well.

There are now 3 categories:

Visitante (6 kinds)
Residente temporario (2 Kinds) All No Inmigrante and Inmigrantes
Residente Permanente (1Kind) Inmigrados

I have not read the whole law in detail but I have scanned it. It seems “better” more lenient to me.

(Mexico will introduce a Point system for permanent resident applicants who do not want to fulfill the 4 year residency requirement as temporary residents)

Permanent residency after 4 years of temporary residency
Permanent residency after 2 years of marriage or common law relationship with Mexican citizen
Permanent residency without 4 years of residency if qualified by point system

I am not sure if it is correct but I got the impression from the new law that there are no more renewals every year but we will have to wait and see if that is true.

Although the Ley de Migracion has been published the Reglamento to the new Immigration law has not yet been published so as far as INM is concerned there are not yet procedures in place for issuing the new cards and all of the Requisitos (requirements) for the different classifications.

Something tells me it will be a bigger mess than last year when the changed over from the booklets to the new cards.


(This post was edited by Casa on May 25, 2011, 6:10 PM)



chicois8

May 25, 2011, 4:39 PM

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Thank you for the update, it will be fun to see how this plays out.....suerte
Ocanahua, Jalisco
San Mateo, California



esperanza

May 25, 2011, 5:27 PM

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Casa, could you post a link? I can't find mention of this in today's Diario Oficial. Thanks.

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morgaine7


May 25, 2011, 5:35 PM

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Here you go ... I just managed to find it:
http://dof.gob.mx/...amp;fecha=25/05/2011

Kate



esperanza

May 25, 2011, 5:52 PM

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Good for you! Thanks for posting it.

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joaquinx


May 25, 2011, 6:11 PM

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I wonder how this will play out in Washington with the current debate(?) on immigration reform.
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DavidHF

May 25, 2011, 6:24 PM

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There is no "current debate" underway on immigration refrom in the USA.



joaquinx


May 25, 2011, 6:28 PM

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There is no "current debate" underway on immigration refrom in the USA.

That's the reason for the question mark. Perhaps this is Calderon's attempt to "push" the debate.
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chicois8

May 25, 2011, 6:40 PM

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Maybe it will make it easier for expats to relocate in Mexico.......
Ocanahua, Jalisco
San Mateo, California



Rolly


May 25, 2011, 7:45 PM

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It's a little early to tell just how much difference this will make.
The enabling regulations have to be written before we know how much of an impact this will actually have for ex-pats

Rolly Pirate



tashby


May 25, 2011, 7:56 PM

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Thanks for the update, Casa.

(Personally, I'd like to keep US policy/politics out of this thread. I last looked at that mess a few years ago in the rearview mirror of our car.)

While everything else gets sorted and the dust settles on this as it applies to foreigners in México, I think I'll just spend my time trying to collect points. Mmmmmmm. Points.

Thanks again for the heads up.


(This post was edited by tashby on May 25, 2011, 8:03 PM)



johanson


May 25, 2011, 7:59 PM

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I belong to several Mexican forums. And I learned about the new law here first. In fact, I haven't seen it mentioned on the other forums. I'm up north for a few months, as I am every year at this time, freezing to death spending time in both Seattle and Vancouver Island with my relatives where it's raining almost every day and the high was maybe 12-13 C or about 55 F this afternoon.

Thank you Mexconnect for being there for us.

Pete, El ruco



Gringal

May 26, 2011, 7:12 AM

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Send rain PLEASE, Pete!

Anyone know what "points" are; how they are acquired.......any information?

Another question: Mentioned on another forum, but of interest to all expats: IMSS seems to be arbitrarily deleting some people from the rolls who have been members for over 5 years. Meanwhile, Calderon has promised coverage for "all residents" who want it; but the question remains: who are "residents"? Permanent residents, as described in the new regulations (see OP) or "Temporary residents" as well?



Casa

May 26, 2011, 9:31 AM

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Anyone know what "points" are; how they are acquired.......any information?

The Mexican point system for immigration has not yet be written or established. The new law provides for the establishment of such a system but it has not yet been written or implemented.

Point based immigration although new for Mexico has been used for many years in other countries most notably by Canada and Australia. Applicants acquire points for meeting certain criteria, for example.

See a Canadian example here

Education
Degree in certain fields would be worth certain points
(The more desirable the degree the more points)

Be able to speak local / national languages

Having family members that are citizens

Being a certain age

Etc



YucaLandia


May 26, 2011, 11:59 AM

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After plowing through 25 pages of legalese, Yucalandia offers the following small tweaks to the posts above:

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No more FM2s or FM3s, no more stand-alone Non-Inmigrante & Inmigrante categories, and there is a tweaked Inmigrado category.
Tourists and other Visitors descriptions have not changed much.

Instead of the old FM2s & FM3s, there are 4 new categories:
"Visitante": 6 Types: Non-Working Visitors (tourist), Working Visitors, and Visitors for Adoptions, Humanitarian, etc. 180 day limit. See Chapter 2, Article 52, Items I - VI of the Law.for descriptions of all 6 types.

"Residente Temporal": Covers the old "No Inmigrante" and "Inmigrante", 4 year limit per visa, Work Permit possible, Leave and Re-enter as many times as desired.
See Chapter 2, Article 52, Item VII

"Residente Temporal Estudiante": Covers Student Studies, Research, Training, including working on university degrees.
See Chapter 2, Article 52, Item VIII

"Residente Permanente": 1 Type: Similar to the old "Inmigrado" status, allows indefinite stays and includes the right to work, come and go as you want.
See Chapter 2, Article 52, Item IX

Notes:
Permanent residency can be granted after just 4 years of temporary residency.

Permanent residency can also be granted after 2 years of marriage or common law relationship with Mexican citizen.
Article 55, Item II

Permanent residency can also be granted to concubines after 2 years of Mexican bliss.
Article 55, Item III

Permanent residency can be awarded with less than 4 years of residency, if the applicant qualifies under the new Points System. Article 57

There will be new ID cards, called "Tarjeta de Residencia" (as "Temporal" or "Permanente").
Article 28, Item XXVIII

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These points are the basic guts of the post, but there's more on the page at http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...ation-law-published/
steve
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edited to remove an error - bit by bit, we're getting to a good temporary product, until the Regulacion is promulgated.
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rockydog85251

May 26, 2011, 12:09 PM

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My husband is due to get his former FM3 renewed in a couple of weeks........any idea of how soon they might start implementing the new law!

Thx.
Willie



Casa

May 26, 2011, 12:46 PM

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Both Permanent and Temporary Residents with the green card must check in the INM within 30 days of re-entering Mexico.
Article 59


I think maybe there is a misunderstanding.

1. Nothing to do with green cards (from the US)
2. There is no “checking in” with INM upon re-entering for Mexican residency card holders (Tarjeta de Residencia)
3. “Check” in is for first time card applicants

Art 59 basically states that one has 30 days to go to INM and (tramitar) process the request for the card Trajeta de Residencia. (Similar to the current FMM holders that want to get a no inmigrante or inmigrante card) The new card will be good for the whole stay.

Also outlines a different process for Refugees and asylum seekers.

Also mentions that the still unwritten “Reglamento de la Ley de Migracion” will outline the procedures and requirements for issuance of the cards.

One does not have to “check in” within 30 days of every time one reenters the country once one has the card. The only check in would be the regular processing at the port of entry.



Casa

May 26, 2011, 1:01 PM

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My husband is due to get his former FM3 renewed in a couple of weeks........any idea of how soon they might start implementing the new law!


No idea, but I do not think it would be before at least a couple of months.



YucaLandia


May 26, 2011, 1:20 PM

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Casa,
You're exactly right. We've been dealing with US Permanent Resident card issues for my wife, so, Residencia Permanente = green card in my parlance.

I've edited the previous post to reflect your corrections (to allow future readers to not have to stumble over my mistake).
THANKS!
steve
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Rolly


May 26, 2011, 1:23 PM

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I'll bet it will be much longer -- maybe a year. There are regs to write, forms and webpages to develop, and INM staff to train.

Rolly Pirate



YucaLandia


May 26, 2011, 6:30 PM

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Gringal,
Did you find your answer yet?

Yucalandia reports:
Mexico will also introduce a new Points System for permanent resident applicants who would like to be granted residency before the standard 4 year temporary residency requirements. The Points can be awarded based on level of education, work experience, skills in areas related to the development of science and technology, international surveys, and the skills to develop activities that are required by Mexico.
Article 57, Item II.

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chinagringo


May 26, 2011, 6:44 PM

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Since Casa provided an example of the Canadian points system, I went to that site and concluded that it was oriented towards those that could work and contribute to the Canadian society. It would seem to this uneducated "boob" that Mexico would have to come up with two very different points systems in order to attract not only those that may be able to contribute and then another for the "Gringo retiree", who might contribute in a far different manner. I cannot see a "one size fits all points system" working!

Of course, it is all pure speculation at this point in time!
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM




tashby


May 26, 2011, 7:36 PM

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It would seem to this uneducated "boob" that Mexico would have to come up with two very different points systems in order to attract not only those that may be able to contribute and then another for the "Gringo retiree"


Check your premise. I don't think the Mexican government would re-write immigration legislation with such a small and unimportant constituency in mind.

If "retired Gringos" matter at all, it's only in our ghettos, not on a national level. Take the blinders off.



Reefhound


May 26, 2011, 7:56 PM

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"Check your premise. I don't think the Mexican government would re-write immigration legislation with such a small and unimportant constituency in mind."

I don't think he said that Mexico would do that, just that it would seem necessary IF they wanted a point system to attract ex-pats. If the ex-pat scene is really so insignificant then one possible outcome is that the point system will have no relevance to ex-pats.

On the other hand, I think Mexico would benefit in many ways from an improved public image in the U.S. and I can't think of any group that makes better ambassadors on behalf of Mexico than ex-pats. Is there anyone here that has not repeatedly countered negative stereotypes and misperceptions to other Americans?



chinagringo


May 26, 2011, 8:10 PM

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Depending on which figures that you choose to read and believe, I would guess that this isn't part of the economic base that Mexico would choose to ignore! Between developments catering to the Gringo retiree and certain select areas of Mexico, I don't think it is debatable that this segment of the residents supports a somewhat unique economy in each. Look around and see the communities that are in the dumpster as a direct result of the change in Gringo attitudes. We all see posts where places like Panama, Belize and other countries have a system for attracting the Gringo retiree. Mexico is almost forced to take a more proactive approach to continue to attract retirees from NOB.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM




morgaine7


May 26, 2011, 9:24 PM

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Mexico's liberal immigration policies are already pretty attractive to foreign retirees, at least in my view. The process is fairly simple, income requirements are reasonable, and so on. What would you change?

Presuming Mexico wishes to attract more retirees, there are plenty of ways to do it that don't involve special provisions in the immigration law.

Kate



Ric Hoffman


May 27, 2011, 12:03 AM

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New Immigration Law Published for Mexico Edit | Delete | Quote | Reply | Private Reply Published in the DOF: http://dof.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=5190774&fecha=25/05/2011

It will be interesting to see how the regulations and manuals implement the new Immigration Act. Just a few quick glances leave a lot of unanswered questions. The loop hole for the turnaround 180 day visitors may be closing soon. Article 53 prohibits change from a "visitor" to "temporary resident" which is available now, but states flatly "may not change status to stay and will leave the country at the end of the period of stay authorized." Could the renewal of the "temporary resident" go out the window and a choice be made to switch to "permanent resident" or leave the country after four years?

I believe the previous years of "No Inmigrante" would be combined with current time under "Inmigrante" as long as they were continuous to fulfill the residency requirements for "permanent resident" but what happens if that time is past the four year mark for a "temporary resident" and you don't choose to apply for "permanent resident"?

Another question to ask ourselves would be what happens to those vehicles brought into Mexico under "temporary imported vehicle" sticker? Article 106 IV does not apply to "permanent residents".

One needs to read the transitory for the law to see an abbreviated impact of the changes in relation to current status. This is a Google translation without embellishment, of transitory for the law.

FIRST. The Migration Act will enter into force the day after its publication in the official Federation newspaper, except the provisions that are subject to the vacancy in the second transitory article.

SECOND. Article 10; fractions I, II, III and VI of article 18; Article 21; Chapters I and II of the fourth title; the last paragraph of article 74; articles 101 and 102; Article 117; the last paragraph of article 112; articles 126 and 127, and articles 149, 157 and 158 of the Migration Act, shall enter into force until is existing regulation of the Act.

THIRD. Within a period of 180 days after the entry into force of this Act, the Federal Government must be issued the regulation of the Migration Act, insofar as possible, it will continue to apply in which does not object, the rules of procedure of the General Population Act.

FOURTH. Administrative provisions of a general nature in immigration matters issued prior to the entry into force of the Migration Act, will continue existing in all what not opposed you, even insofar as issued provisions to replace them pursuant to the same.

FIFTH. Expenditures which agencies and entities of the Federal public administration, as well as the Attorney-General's Office, be made to implement the actions set out in the Migration Act, hold his budgetary availability approved for that purpose by the Chamber of deputies in the Decree of budget expenses of the Federation.

SIXTH. For the purposes of the Migration Act, it should take into account the following:
I. the foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of non immigrant within the characteristics of tourist, transmigrante, visitor in all its forms except foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of non immigrant within the feature of Local visitor awarded to nationals of neighboring countries for their visit to populations in the border of the Mexican United States, Minister of worship, distinguished visitor, temporary visitor and correspondent, they deemed the visitor without permission to carry out remunerated activities;
II. the foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of non immigrant within the feature of Local visitors, awarded to nationals of neighboring countries for their visit to the border of the Mexican United States people, deemed the regional visitor;
III. the foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of non immigrant, inside the typical student, was deemed temporary resident students;
IV. the foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of non immigrant, inside the characteristics of isolated political and refugee, deemed the permanent resident;
V. Foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of immigrant within the characteristics of rentier, investor, professional, responsible for trust, scientist, technician, familiar, artist and sportsman or similar, is deemed the temporary resident, and I saw.
VI. Foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of immigrated, is deemed to permanent resident.

SEVENTH. References made in the Migration Act to the order of joining process, will be understood after the existing detention order, every time that this Decree does not comes into force the constitutional article 19 subject to vacancy provided for in the article second transitory of the decree whereby they reformed and added various provisions of the political Constitution of the United States Mexican, published in the Official Gazette of the Federation on June 18, 2008.

EIGHTH. The Ministry of the Interior shall publish in the Official Journal of the Federation, the rules concerning the system of points under the Migration Act, within a period of 180 days after its entry into force..

NINTH. Migration procedures that are in process or pending resolution to the date of entry into force of the Migration Act, should be completed in accordance with the provisions in force at the time they started.

TENTH. The criminal proceedings initiated before the entry into force of the Migration Act, for the scheduled offence in article 138 of the General Population Act, will continue to be processed until its conclusion in accordance with the provisions in force at the time of the Commission of the facts that gave origin. The same will be observed with regard to the implementation of the relevant penalties.



Ric Hoffman


May 27, 2011, 5:57 AM

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A PDF (Ley de Migracion DOF 25052011 it is searchable and print-ready) copy of Mexico's new Immigration Act 2011 is available for download from MoreliaConnect - Yahoo Groups or by contacting me.



stevebrtx

May 27, 2011, 7:46 AM

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I'll be at the 4 year mark this Oct, but I'll renew my "FM3" in Sept and wouldn't expect any change by then. However, I was trying to remember the FM2 requirements that prevent owning a foreign plated car, can anyone refresh my memory on that part? Of course that may change in the final regulations that will now be written.



jerezano

May 27, 2011, 7:46 AM

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Hello all,

I just read the new immigration law in Spanish.

A lot of us are wondering about the point system, but don't need to worry about it because of Article 54 which is quoted below and then my translation into English follows:

>>>>>
Artículo 54. Se otorgará la condición de residente permanente al extranjero que se ubique en cualquiera de los siguientes supuestos:
I. Por razones de asilo político, reconocimiento de la condición de refugiado y protección complementaria o por la determinación de apátrida, previo cumplimiento de los requisitos establecidos en esta Ley, su Reglamento y demás disposiciones jurídicas aplicables;
II. Por el derecho a la preservación de la unidad familiar en los supuestos del artículo 55 de esta Ley;

III. Que sean jubilados o pensionados que perciban de un gobierno extranjero o de organismos internacionales o de empresas particulares por servicios prestados en el exterior, un ingreso que les permita vivir en el paí<<<<<<<<<<<<
Article 54: The permanent resident status will be given to WHICHEVER of the the following apply:
I. For political asylum
II. To preserve family unity as noted in article 55 of this law.
III. TO THOSE WHO RECEIVE A PENSION FROM A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OR AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANISM OR A PRIVATE BUSINESS FOR SERVICES RENDERED WHICH IS SUFFICIENT TO PERMIT THEM TO LIVE IN MEXICO.
I qualify under condition III as do many of us here in México. In fact it would seem that many here who might be able to qualify for the old FM3 should be able to qualify
under condition III.
Am I reading this new law incorrectly?

The only new paper work which might be a problem is that of the VISA. As I read that part of the law it could be necessary for people like me to get a VISA from a Mexican consulate in the USA. This might be required because VISAS will be necessary for all countries except those where an agreement between Mexico and that country states that a VISA is not required. Until now Mexico did not require a VISA from a USA citizen, but who knows from now on? Hasta Luego, jerezano



Gringal

May 27, 2011, 7:48 AM

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My Spanish skills are limited, and my brain is stuck in the old system. Maybe someone smarter or more fluent will help me out here:

Our current FM2 visas expire June 30th and we have begun the process of renewal already. This is our third renewal. I am assuming we must kick along with the current system at this point since, as others have pointed out, they won't have the wrinkles out for months on the new law. Next year, I guess we'll be operating under the new law.

We own property in Mexico, which has lowered the income requirements under the current regulations. ?? under the new ones.

Here's the main question: We were looking forward to going through the next two renewals of our FM2's and then applying for Immigrado status after completing the five year requirement under FM2, and then not having to do a further yearly renewal process with its attendant time and money involved. After that, we may try for citizenship, or not. Don't know yet.

Under the new law.............what will happen to our status? Yearly renewal? What? I've read all the posts and I'm still confused.



Ric Hoffman


May 27, 2011, 8:05 AM

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I'll be at the 4 year mark this Oct, but I'll renew my "FM3" in Sept and wouldn't expect any change by then. However, I was trying to remember the FM2 requirements that prevent owning a foreign plated car, can anyone refresh my memory on that part? Of course that may change in the final regulations that will now be written.

IV. Por el plazo que dure su calidad migratoria, incluyendo sus prórrogas, en los siguientes casos:

a) Las de vehículos propiedad de extranjeros que se internen al país con calidad de inmigrantes rentistas o de no inmigrantes, excepto tratándose de refugiados y asilados políticos, siempre que se trate de un solo vehículo.




(This post was edited by Ric Hoffman on May 27, 2011, 8:18 AM)



stevebrtx

May 27, 2011, 8:11 AM

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Sorry, false start, I found what I needed on remaining "rentista" to keep foreign plates, of course that may change.



Ric Hoffman


May 27, 2011, 8:13 AM

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According to the transitory remarks, you will continue your process until completed and I would venture an educated guess that all current "No Inmigrante" and "Inmigrante" will not require any actions on our part until the current expiration date is reached and after the regulations and manuals implementing the new act are published.


(This post was edited by Ric Hoffman on May 27, 2011, 8:30 AM)



Rolly


May 27, 2011, 8:19 AM

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I've read all the posts and I'm still confused.
Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. At this point there are far more questions than answers.
We'll just continue under the existing rules until the new one come on line.

Rolly Pirate



morgaine7


May 27, 2011, 8:23 AM

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I'm at exactly the same point, and I doubt we'll know the answers until the regulations are published. I'll be doing the third renewal of my Inmigrante status (formerly FM2) in October and hope they'll invite me to apply for Inmigrado status, but I'm not counting my chickens just yet.

While it's implied in the wording of the new law that FM3/No Inmigrante years will be counted toward the four-year temporary residence requirement, it's by no means certain. The fact that they're still showing No Inmigrante and Inmigrante statuses under the "temporary resident" category leads me to believe that rules will continue to be different for the two … otherwise, why bother maintaining the distinction?

Kate



Ric Hoffman


May 27, 2011, 8:28 AM

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Sorry, false start, I found what I needed on remaining "rentista" to keep foreign plates, of course that may change.


What did you find concerning remaining "Rentista"? Under the old system once you reached the expiration of your fourth Refrendo, you either applied for "Inmigrado" or applied for a new "No Inmigrante" visa. "Inmigrante" status was only granted for five years. The new Immigration act as published does not address temporary residents past a four year period.



stevebrtx

May 27, 2011, 8:45 AM

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I had forgot this forum has a search feature that actually works. I think the post was from Rolly when he went to change his status to "rentista" regarding foreign plated cars. But as everyone agrees, until they create the regs, nothing will change and we'll just see what the outcome is.

As a NOB pol said last year "we need to pass it to see what's in it" - and now we know what she meant, all the massive law did was provide a license for mid level, nameless, faceless bureaucrats to write the actual regulations, seems MX does much the same.



jerezano

May 27, 2011, 8:53 AM

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Hello all,

Please see my above post which quotes the new Immigration Law Article 54 and says, if my translation is correct, that any foreigner who receives a pension of any type (with sufficient funds) which allows him/her to live in Mexico can obtain a permanent resident permit.

As ever, jerezano


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Ric Hoffman


May 27, 2011, 9:04 AM

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The old standard was “and receive funds from abroad" with amounts indicated in multiples based on the daily wage in DF. Those multiples were 250 and 400 with an additional fifty percent per dependent. Home ownership discount of up to fifty percent was only applied for "Inmigrante". So this statement is not really anything new but may be used to lure annuitants if it not tied to the daily wage as before.


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jerezano

May 27, 2011, 11:11 AM

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Hello all,

Quote: So this statement is not really anything new but may be used to lure annuitants if it not tied to the daily wage as before. End quote

This is NEW in that a Permanent resident permit can be obtained if the foreigner qualifies with a pension providing sufficient funds as determined by Inmigración. Unless new regulations are developed that sufficient funds requirement will probably be the same as always with its annual changes. This new permission was NOT obtainable in the past.

There is no requirement for a time spent in México. There is no requirement for a point total. There is no requirement for a family tie. The new law states flatly that the ONLY requirement necessary is those sufficient funds.

But that new Visa requirement stated elsewhere worries me a little.

As ever, jerezano



arbon

May 27, 2011, 12:29 PM

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In Reply To
Hello all,

Quote: So this statement is not really anything new but may be used to lure annuitants if it not tied to the daily wage as before. End quote

This is NEW in that a Permanent resident permit can be obtained if the foreigner qualifies with a pension providing sufficient funds as determined by Inmigración. Unless new regulations are developed that sufficient funds requirement will probably be the same as always with its annual changes. This new permission was NOT obtainable in the past.

There is no requirement for a time spent in México. There is no requirement for a point total. There is no requirement for a family tie. The new law states flatly that the ONLY requirement necessary is those sufficient funds.

But that new Visa requirement stated elsewhere worries me a little.

As ever, jerezano


I think you have the correct idea jerezano, the point system in Canada was/is not for the two classes of immigrants that have sufficient funds.
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Ric Hoffman


May 27, 2011, 1:06 PM

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Article 37 states the requirements for a foreigner to enter the country, one of which says you must have either a resident card (temporary or permanent) or a visa issued in accordance with Article 40. This requirement is basically the same as today, Tourist (FMM), No Inmigrante (FM-3), Inmigrante (FM-2) or Inmigrado card. If you are currently in Mexico, you should have one these.

Article 39 grants the Consular Offices again the authority to issue these visas and residence permits so in theory it may be possible to apply for a permanent resident card if the annual annuitant meets the requirement under Article 54 III. This option is a new addition to current law as far as I can find and I stand corrected for my previous statement to the contrary.

Article 59 lists the thirty day time limit to validate and register the cards issued by the Consular Offices at your servicing INM office.


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dongringo_catemaco


May 27, 2011, 5:07 PM

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Please, please, Rolly, condense this crap into something worthwhile reading
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Rolly


May 27, 2011, 5:17 PM

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All this analysis of the law is of academic interest to some folks, but not to me.
The real meat will come with the regulations. I'll be very interested in that.
In the meantime, I'm content to wait.

Rolly Pirate



judithnpups


May 27, 2011, 6:15 PM

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Believe me, you don't want to be among the first people in line when the new system is implemented. Don't ask me how I know this.
Judith in the DF (formerly in Morelia)



Moisheh

May 27, 2011, 7:07 PM

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Very confusing. I am getting ready to put my "points" on E-bay but would consider selling them to a forum member. Offers? Think BIG!! Paypal accepted.

Moisheh



richmx2


May 27, 2011, 11:17 PM

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I don't think the points will affect the vast majority of gringo retiree type emigrants. Most countries that use a point system for immigrants use them to attract the kind of WORKERS they need: expect someone like a 30 year old agronomist to get a lot more points than a 65 year old pensioner. If nothing else, one expects the agronomist to be paying more taxes over his lifetime, and not as likely to use expensive social service resources for much longer. Some countries (including the United States) assess points for investors, based on the amount of money they are bringing into the country. A thirty year old agronomist who speaks Spanish and is investing a million dollars in a new food processing plant would probably be a shoe-in. A sixty-five year old English speaking pensioner is, I'm afraid, not all that much a social asset. and I can't see why they would expect to receive any points.


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stevebrtx

May 28, 2011, 5:30 AM

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Sadly I'd have to agree that "socially" we're not much of an asset. However, I'd differ a bit when it comes to the amount of money we pump into the local economies of areas we frequent. If there were no expats on the N shore it would be dramatically different & poorer. Like it or not our community provides jobs for a lot of people.



tonynico

May 28, 2011, 5:36 PM

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I guess I will find out the hard way we will be applying for our FM3 in July. Maybe the changes will not go into effect by then.

Tony



chinagringo


May 28, 2011, 5:44 PM

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Tony:

Please get a grip! Changes happen in Mexico in their own due time and will be different from Consulate to Consulate and office to office within Mexico. Nothing is ever consistent!
Regards,
Neil
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tonynico

May 28, 2011, 5:50 PM

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In any event it will be what it will be. 75 percent done packing just got to sell off some things or donate it. and in July we are on our way.
Tony



DavidHF

May 29, 2011, 6:19 AM

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Some changes went into effect in May of 2010; there are no more FMT, FM2, or FM3.



Ric Hoffman


May 29, 2011, 6:40 AM

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All this analysis of the law is of academic interest to some folks, but not to me.
The real meat will come with the regulations. I'll be very interested in that.
In the meantime, I'm content to wait.


It may be academic but it is good reading. For instance, the LEY GENERAL DE POBLACIÓN with its last revision date of 27012011 devoted an entire chapter to Sanctions (twenty five articles) with fines ranging from 20 to 1000 times the daily wage in DF. Short of any real criminal activity I foresee only hand slapping for minor infractions of the new immigration act. Regulations do not impose fines or penalties.

After reading it completely, you will see it should be hailed as a milestone for the expatriates currently in Mexico as well as those who follow.


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richmx2


May 29, 2011, 11:36 AM

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I don't see these new regulations are really affecting rentistas all that much ... and they don't seem to have been drawn up with the them in mind, but rather to deal with the more pressing social phenomena of migration from Central America (and in lesser numbers from Eastern Europe and Asia).

I think sometimes we need to get over ourselves. I've seen estimates of the number of English-speaking foreigners in Mexico as high as three million, and certainly they have an economic and social impact (mostly limited to consumer spending), but you can hardly expect that one subset of those foreigners is the priority of those drafting sweeping changes to federal regulations.


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La Isla


May 29, 2011, 11:51 AM

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I think sometimes we need to get over ourselves. I've seen estimates of the number of English-speaking foreigners in Mexico as high as three million, and certainly they have an economic and social impact (mostly limited to consumer spending), but you can hardly expect that one subset of those foreigners is the priority of those drafting sweeping changes to federal regulations.


Let's not forget that, at least in Mexico City, many of these English-speaking expats are still working and contributing to the economy by paying taxes as well as spending money as consumers. Here's some data I received a little over a year ago from Democrats Abroad:

Almost 800,000 US citizens now live in Mexico, according to verifiable sources.

Employees: 275,600
Spouses: 159,297
Children under 18: 227,086
Students: 16,500
Gov. personnel: 318
Retirees: 61,480
Unofficial retirees: 30,740



arbon

May 29, 2011, 12:00 PM

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For sure, if Canadian retirees were financially attractive to the States and American retirees were financially attractive to Canada, they would both be welcome in each others country for more than six months at a time, ........like they are in Mexico.
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johang


May 29, 2011, 2:22 PM

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La Isla where did you get that? I would love to take a look see what else may be there. The debate about how many expats crops up all the time.

Johan....If we all do a little we can do a lot. Visit our little corner of paradise at the Jaltemba Jalapeño.



La Isla


May 29, 2011, 2:42 PM

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Hi johan,

The information I posted I hand-copied from some material given out at an organizational meeting held last year. I don't know where they got it from.

Marsha



richmx2


May 29, 2011, 3:36 PM

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Marsha: that's what I meant by a "subset" of foreigners... many of us (you and I for certain) are working people. I'm kind of curious about those numbers you dug up too. They might be from the U.S. Census, which didn't do all that much to find U.S. citizens here, or U.S. citizens who go to the trouble of registering with the Embassy. There's always been a sizable number of foreigners here because they don't particularly like the U.S. government (or are hiding from it for one reason or another) or who just don't see much point in bothering with U.S. bureaucrats (I'm in the latter group) and wouldn't be included... nor, obviously, would Canadians, British, Irish, etc. English-speaking foreigners.

All that aside, I wonder what "unofficially retired" means... slacker? bank robber laying low?


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tashby


May 29, 2011, 3:44 PM

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Quote
I wonder what "unofficially retired" means...


Inmate?

I saw that category also and it made me giggle. It probably applies to me, statistically. But I doubt I'm a statistic.



Rolly


May 29, 2011, 3:58 PM

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Article 53 worries me.

Article 53. Visitors, except those for humanitarian reasons and those who have links with Mexican or regular resident alien in Mexico, can not change status of residence and will have to leave the country at the end of the period of stay authorized.

Does "those who have links with Mexican or regular resident alien in Mexico" mean that those of us who are already here can change status without leaving the country?

Does "except those for humanitarian reasons" cover folks who are not physically able to make the trip back to the old country?

Rolly Pirate



morgaine7


May 29, 2011, 3:58 PM

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Here are 2010 census figures for residents of Mexico born in other countries. It shows the growth since 2000:
http://www.inegi.org.mx/...mp;s=est&c=23635

Kate



La Isla


May 29, 2011, 3:59 PM

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I have no idea where those numbers come from. Your guess is as good as, or better, than mine. But it does give you somewhere to begin. The organization that put it together is interested in keeping in touch with Democrats who are living here, so they can get them absentee ballots and keep them apprised of political happenings back home, especially of matters that affect the lives of expats here. Thanks to them I was able to vote here in the primary elections back in 2008 and get an absentee ballot for the general election too.



La Isla


May 29, 2011, 4:01 PM

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Maybe it means those who live here and don't need to work but have not yet applied for retirement from the US Social Security Administration.



Ric Hoffman


May 29, 2011, 4:04 PM

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Here are 2010 census figures for residents of Mexico born in other countries. It shows the growth since 2000:
http://www.inegi.org.mx/...mp;s=est&c=23635

Kate

And from the INM web site: http://www.inm.gob.mx/...disticas_Migratorias



Ric Hoffman


May 29, 2011, 4:25 PM

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Article 53 worries me.
The loop hole for the turnaround 180 day visitors may be closing soon. All those who currently use the cross border shopping trip and then returning under a new FMM would fall under this article. While most people believe they are entitled to a new FMM immediately the actual LGP does not address multiple tourist visas; not even mentioning once a year entitlement. It just says not more than 180 days. The newly out dated regulations allowed one to change their status from Tourist to No Inmigrante by merely submitting the proper forms and request.

Article 53 prohibits change from a “visitor” to “temporary resident” which is available now, but states flatly “may not change status to stay and will leave the country at the end of the period of stay authorized.” So the decision to become a “Temporary Resident” would have to be made prior to crossing the border also meeting the requirements before the visa or resident card being issued. It would not effect those currently holding either No Inmigrante or Inmigrante status. I would not want to venture a guess as to the status of those holding FMM since I did not see the issue raised in the transitory clause. If you plan to continue as a "temporary resident" I would apply now for No Inmigrante if still allowed to do so. After reviewing the transitory clause for those currently holding Tourist: “… is deemed the visitor without permission to carry out remunerated activities;”



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stevebrtx

May 29, 2011, 5:07 PM

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Not to challenge those numbers, but I can guarantee they are off by at least one, I was home every day and the census never showed up at my gate, not initially and not after the supposed two followups.



YucaLandia


May 29, 2011, 7:19 PM

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 In the current Diario Oficial website on the new law, (reopen now after being shut down for... updates?) there is one item that caught my attention:
Chapter 8, Article 162, Sexto:
"V. Los extranjeros que hayan obtenido la calidad migratoria de Inmigrante, dentro las características de rentista, inversionista, profesional, cargo de confianza, científico, técnico, familiar, artista y deportista o asimilados, se equipararán al Residente temporal,


We translate this to:
"V. Foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of "Inmigrante" (old FM2), who meet the characteristics "Rentista" ( financier), investor, professional position of trust, scientific, technical, family, artist, sports or similar, be equated to Temporary Resident status."

This seems to mean that "Inmigrante Rentista" (a common expat - old FM2 Rentista category that allowed holders to keep a foreign plated vehicle) and "Inmigrante Familiar" will be converted to "Temporal Residente" / Temporary Residents.

This also then points by default (?) to the other un-named "Inmigrante" categories (working "Inmigrantes", etc) being categorized as "Residente Permanente" (= old "Inmigrado" status), under the new law?

My Yucatecan wife agrees with these translations, but neither of us are immigration abogados, so, I hesitate to make definitive claims about what is and what isn't covered here.

Do other folks out their interpret "calidad migratoria de Inmigrante, dentro las características de rentista, inversionista, profesional, cargo de confianza, científico, técnico, familiar, artista y deportista o asimilados," to equate to the old "Inmigrante Rentista", "Inmigrante Familiar", etc ? I understand that all of the listed categories (including cientifico) do not allow the holder to work for pay.

Categorizing non-working Inmigrantes/"non-working FM2's" as Temporary Residents makes some sense, though not everyone will agree. Job = roots. Money in the bank = portablilty?

Still, if you have 4 years of "FM3" or "Rentista FM2", or "Familiar FM2", the law appears to say you qualify to apply for "Residente Permanente"

Makes sense?

My apologies if this point just rehashes what others have already pointed out, but making a distinction between "working Inmigrantes" (working FM2's) as Permanent Residents, and categorizing "non-working Inmigrantes" as Temporary Residents seems significant to many ex-pats.

Based on these "new" distinctions, some ex-pats may choose to apply to change status under existing regs and categories to get the terms you want/need, rather than waiting until the new regs close some categories.
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Rolly


May 29, 2011, 7:36 PM

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It will interesting to see how "Residente Permanente" affects vehicle permits.
I'm sure there will be lots of wailing and gnashing of teeth if the car has to go.

Rolly Pirate



Ric Hoffman


May 29, 2011, 7:44 PM

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It will interesting to see how "Residente Permanente" affects vehicle permits.
I'm sure there will be lots of wailing and gnashing of teeth if the car has to go.


You were allowed to own or operate foreign plated vehicles while Inmigrante, it was only after the fourth Refrendo expiration, when you declared Inmigrado that were you denied that privilege. The Aduana Ley Article 106 governs operation foreign plated vehicles not INM. Under the current law the restriction would be applied to “Permanent Residents”.


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YucaLandia


May 29, 2011, 7:45 PM

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Good point, Rolly.

"Inmigrante Rentista" (Resident with financial means = FM2 Rentista) would no longer be classified as long-term Resident, but it would drop back into the Temporary Resident category, where one might assume that all Permanent Residents are not allowed to have foreign-plated vehicles, and that all Temporary Residents would qualify to keep their foreign-plated cars/pick-ups. The old "Inmigrante Familiar" (Family FM2) would then be quickly eligible to apply for Permanent Residency, which makes sense that spouses and children would also be Permanent Residents (categories which are specifically identified as eligible in the new law).

These changes would clarify and much simply ex-pats status and requirements (just 2 flavors of immigrant Residents) vs. the current somewhat convolved systems.
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Ric Hoffman


May 29, 2011, 7:56 PM

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This also then points by default (?) to the other un-named "Inmigrante" categories (working "Inmigrantes", etc) being categorized as "Residente Permanente" (= old "Inmigrado" status), under the new law?

My Yucatecan wife agrees with these translations, but neither of us are immigration abogados, so, I hesitate to make definitive claims about what is and what isn't covered here.
From the Transitory Clause posted earlier: VI. Foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of immigrated, is deemed to permanent resident. Means the Imigrado is now a "Permanent Resident"



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Peter


May 30, 2011, 2:42 AM

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My visa expires soon. Having already had four renewals of the fm3/no inmigrante this time I must make a new application. I just began looking at requirements this past week in anticipation of obtaining the new visa when this new law began coming about. To my surprise either way, under the new and under the old regs I see I am suddely eligible for Inmigrado. That caught me by surprise as I still have my US vehicle and made no special plans to get rid of or nationalize it right away, though I have little qualms about doing so.

I am sure others will also be caught by surprise in this way. The vehicles we have are a stumbling block by old system rules. I will be curious to see if we will be granted some additional time to somehow regularize this situation. It may lead to a scrambling to the border to get rid of vehicles or flooding aduana with new applications to nationalize them. It seems to be the only unresolved "problem" to have to fix, otherwise I am delighted by the new revelations that under either set of laws I now am eligible to become a permanent resident.

I hope someone thinks to consider this situation and make some new allowance for this which will no doubt effect many of us.

Last year I got caught in the confusion while INM switched over to the new cards and my expiration date made me one of the first in line. I had hoped all would be smooth this year as in other times in the past. Looks like no such luck this year either. It appears it will be a test of patience once again, the one thing I have very short supply of.


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YucaLandia


May 30, 2011, 9:32 AM

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TANGENTIAL POINT:
This brings up a really good point me. Many translating engines don't differentiate between "Inmigrado"and "Ïnmigrante" and other internet translating engines take:
Transitorios, Sexto: IV. Los extranjeros que hayan obtenido la calidad migratoria de No inmigrante, dentro las características de asilado político y refugiado, se equipararán al Residente permanente;
Using Google Translate yesterday, this translated to:
IV. Foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of immigrant who do not meet the characteristics of political asylum and refugees, are deemed equivalent to Permanent Resident status.

Note how last week's Google put the negative "no" in the wrong spot. Google learns fast though: today, it correctly keeps the ""no" with immigrant to give "non immigrant".

Because of the variations between how things get translated, I think it is cleaner to insert the original Spanish terms for Inmigrado/Inmigrante/No Inmigrante into the final translations to maintain clarity.

On the issue of “Permanente Residente” / old “Inmigrado”, the new law reads:
Article 162, Sexto: VI. Los extranjeros que hayan obtenido la calidad migratoria de inmigrado, se equipararán al Residente permanente. “
then translates to:
” VI. Foreigners who have obtained the immigration status of “inmigrado”, are deemed equivalent to Permanent Resident status. “In any case, the new Permanent Resident category sure seems to include at least 2 of the old categories: i.e. both the old Ïnmigrado and the working Inmigrante (working FM2) categories.

We expect even more fun and surprises when the Regulacion is promulgated and each state/office decides how to implement all the new twists and turns.
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Casa

May 30, 2011, 9:32 AM

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Having already had four renewals of the fm3/no inmigrante this time I must make a new application. I just began looking at requirements this past week in anticipation of obtaining the new visa when this new law began coming about. To my surprise either way, under the new and under the old regs I see I am suddely eligible for Inmigrado.



I believe you may be misinformed concerning the old rules............

La calidad de inmigrado se obtiene únicamente después de vivir cinco años en forma continua como inmigrante, al vencimiento del cuarto refrendo estas en posibilidad de acceder a la residencia definitiva, que es el máximo reconocimiento jurídico que en materia migratoria te otorga el gobierno mexicano.

Inmigrado Resident status is obtained only after living five years continuously as an immigrant, (FM2, Inmigrante, not fm3 No inmigrante) the expiration of the fourth annual renewal are in ability to access permanent residency, which is the maximum legal recognition that migration gives you the Mexican government.



tonyburton / Moderator


May 30, 2011, 9:38 AM

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This thread is becoming far too long for its own good or ease of use. (I looked for a natural break-point to detach part of it, but it's too jumbled up to fix easily).
Please feel free to start another.