A change in US passport requirements is coming

A change in US passport requirements is coming

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Here is some interesting reading from the US State Department website.

New Requirements for Travelers Between the United States and the Western Hemisphere

Travelers to and from the Caribbean, Bermuda, Panama, Mexico and Canada will be required to have a passport or other secure, accepted document to enter or re-enter the United States. This is a change from prior travel requirements and will affect all United States citizens entering the United States from countries within the Western Hemisphere who do not currently possess valid passports. This new requirement will also affect certain foreign nationals who currently are not required to present a passport to travel to the United States. Most Canadian citizens, citizens of the British Overseas Territory of Bermuda, and to a lesser degree, Mexican citizens will be affected by the implementation of this requirement.

Implementation Dates for New Travel Initiative Requirements

Frequently Asked Questions about the New Travel Initiative Requirements (FAQs)

Read it all here: http://www.travel.state.gov/

Rolly Pirate

king1522

Apr 5, 2005, 2:34 PM

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Thanks Rolly. This may be a mixed blessing. Maybe it will discourage unwanted relatives from visiting us!

Don

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macmember

Apr 5, 2005, 8:38 PM

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"December 31, 2006 – Passport or other accepted document required for all air and sea travel to or from Mexico and Canada."

Rolly, am I reading this wrong or will we continue to be able to drive across the Border without a passport?

Also, what would an "other accepted document" be?

Beverly

Bear

Apr 6, 2005, 5:45 AM

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You will drive across until Dec. 31, 2007 without passport. Other documents include pre-approved pass cards, e.g. "Sentri" and "Fast" cards.

Apr 6, 2005, 7:23 AM

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The passport is a re-entry document. A driver license doesn't indicate citizenship nor does a birth certificate have a picture or signature. The passport does. Right after 9/11 there was much talk about instituting a national ID card; we already have that in the form of a passport.
Alex

Bubba

Apr 6, 2005, 6:12 PM

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Why in hell wouldn't everyone have a passport? You'd damn well better have one the next time you cross from Aqua Prieta into Douglas or those MinuteMen will plug your sorry ass in the name of protecting those Arkansas chicken plucker jobs from the foreign demons taking over the Fourdyce Trailer Park. Praise The Lawd and pass me my sheet, brother.

Marlene

Apr 6, 2005, 9:02 PM

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Why in hell wouldn't everyone have a passport?

Ahh...the burning question. I also ponder the same question, so why don't we ask the masses? Why do any of you (or your friends) choose to travel to Mexico, a foreign country, without a passport?

Marta R

Apr 6, 2005, 10:22 PM

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My sister doesn't have a passport. I took her on a cruise to PV, Mazatlan, and Los Cabos and we packed along her birth certificate, driver's license, etc. etc. She was never asked for any of them.

On the other hand, ten years ago a U.S. immigration official in Vancouver, Canada, tried to keep me off a plane going home, because he asked where I was born and I said "Mexico" and he asked if I was a US citizen and I said "yes" and he said "prove it" and I didn't have a passport and he wouldn't accept anything else, including my voter reg card, and he strung me out until final call for the plane before telling me I could go, and there I was rushing down the corridor trying to stuff my life back into my purse and cursing and crying and it was pretty awful. Now, I don't go within 100 miles of a border without my passport.

Marta

julietl

Apr 7, 2005, 6:07 AM

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This discussion is news to me. I had no idea you could come to Mexico without a passport. Maybe because I usually come here via airport and don't drive across the border.

Everyone who has come to visit me in the last 2 years (around 20 people), they have all had a passport. I think it is pretty presumptuous to go to another country without one, and generally it's not even an option.
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Apr 7, 2005, 6:14 AM

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From the few people I know who don't have them, it's usually because they never planned on doing international travel any farther afield than Canada or Mexico, and a passport wasn't necessary for either of those destinations. In other words, why bother?

It wouldn't surprise me any to find that there are a lot of people in mid-America who are totally unaware of the concept of passport and visa requirements.

Just one more thing that's changed in the world.

E&F

abq

Apr 7, 2005, 6:17 AM

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I have a pasport but it expired last year and I hadn't gotten the replacement in time for a six week trip to Mexico. At that time a birth certeficate and drivers license was all that was required. I had no problem at the border both entering and exiting.

Bear

Apr 7, 2005, 7:00 AM

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Men and women who have outstanding child support
balances due over $5000.00 US are denied passports
by the feds. They must travel with birth certificates
and picture ID. They cannot get a passport until they clear the debt.
This, in turn, keeps them from an FM3, bank account
in many Mexican Banks, Mexican auto ownership, etc.
These folks will have trouble crossing the border after
Dec. 31, 2007. Perhaps, this is best.

jimindetroit

Apr 7, 2005, 7:19 AM

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Of course you're right, E&F. We have friends here who have never traveled more than 5 counties from their birthplace! Windsor, Ontario, Canada, is a 10 minute ride from Detroit and just another town to hang out, have a beer, do a little gambling, etc. if you live in the Detroit area, eh? No one here ever dreamed of needing a passport to visit the Windsor Ballet (a strip club), but it'll soon be a reality. This morning on WJR talk radio, "passports" was the topic. To my surprise, almost all the comments called in were in favor of having passports to visit our Canadian sister city. The threat of terrorism is so much on our minds that we're all in favor of doing anything to hamper its possiblity here. We have a mile or less of water separating us; a few thousand American and Canadian registered pleasure and fishing boats on that water, and a dozen law enforcement watercraft patrolling the border for bad guys!

Apr 7, 2005, 7:35 AM

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in Tijuana. Show your old passport, your new photos, pay a fee of something like $450 pesos I think it was, they make a new one right there on the spot. Your old one gets some holes punched in it and returned to you with the brand spanking new one. Took 40 minutes all told. The old passport still serves as valid ID: just because your passport expires doesn't mean that your citizenship does.
Alex

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MG Rabon

Apr 7, 2005, 7:48 AM

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Alex, Are you serious? I can really renew my US passport in Mexico for less and half the price of renewing it in the US???

Hmmm

Compórtate bien, y si no puedes, invítame!
MG Rabon

jennifer rose

Apr 7, 2005, 8:07 AM

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Re: [Bubba] that is consistent with what I've always said:

Bubba typeth,

" Why in hell wouldn't everyone have a passport?"

That's the question I've been asking. I've never been able to figure out why so many folks are so darn reticent about getting a passport. Maybe they're just worried about taking the test. The reality is that it takes far less time and intelligence to get a passport than a driver's license. I've had passports my entire life, and the total time expended on applications and renewals was far less than an episode of Wheel of Fortune.

[Lest someone actually think there's a test, allow me to state for the record that there is no test. Repeat, there is no test. No Kaplan course is necessary prior to getting a passport.]

(This post was edited by jennifer rose on Apr 7, 2005, 8:07 AM)

abq

Apr 7, 2005, 8:40 AM

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Actually, I was told that an expired passport wouldn't be accepted but the BC would. Living in Albuquerque, I had to send away to Texas for one. I guess it doesn't really matter now that the rules have changed.

Papirex

Apr 7, 2005, 11:00 AM

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In the early 1990s my passport had expired when I had the opportunity to make a trip to Mexico. I used my birth certificate and drivers license to enter Mexico. Upon returning to the US, after showing my birth certificate and drivers license, I mentioned to the US official that I had an expired passport, he said “You should have showed it to me, it would be OK.”

A couple of months later I had to make another trip to Mexico. Being an expert procrastinator, I still had not renewed my passport. When returning to The US, I told the woman on the US side that I had an expired US passport. She said “That’s no good.” Go figure.

When I started the renewal process later, I was kicking myself a little for waiting too long to do it. I found out that I could have renewed it online, if I did it within one year of the old one’s expiration date. It would have saved me from duplicating a lot of paperwork if I had known about it. Fortunately, I had kept a copy of my original application, so I was able to find the dates, and places of birth for both my parents, etc. fairly easily. Renewing it the way I did it was almost like making the original application, with the exception that I had to send in my old passport. They canceled it and sent it back to me with the new one.

I suppose that with all the stuff recently enacted for Homeland security, that the option for online renewal is probably not offered anymore. But I will check for it when the time comes anyway.

Rex

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RickS

Apr 7, 2005, 11:50 AM

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I don't see a way to renew 'on-line', but the renewal form is available to print out there. See the site listed below to see if you qualify ......

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/renew/renew_833.html

Texwheel

Apr 7, 2005, 12:12 PM

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Listen, let's not all get too snooty about why someone doesn't have a passport. I got one several years ago and used it only once, to go to Canada...I had visions of other trips, but they never happened.

It expired. And I renewed it barely in time for my trip to Mexico last June.

I'd like to be a world traveler as many of you are...and I still hope to be. But with one never having been required for traveling to Canada and Mexico, much of which is close-in border crossing only, why would most "middle Americans" have wanted or needed to get a passport?
Tom Williams
Georgetown, Texas
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mrchuck

Apr 7, 2005, 1:03 PM

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Wrong Frank.
The actual ICE enforcement date for Mexico is 12-31-2006.
This is 1 year and 9 months form now, and it is about time.
There are presently thousands of US citizens hiding in Mexico to avoid the many, and varied US Law Enforcement Authorities, that has "paper" on them.
This category of perps cannot get a Passport, nor withstand a serious document inspection.
This type of "lifestyle" for them, is now coming to an end!
These same people also cannot get Mexican immigration documents like an FM-3 or FM-2.
So, they will have to get back into the USA soon, and try to blend back in and not be found out.

It IS about time,,,,,,,Saludos,,,,mc

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MG Rabon

Apr 7, 2005, 1:43 PM

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Mine had expired and I renewed it last year. It wasn't the smoothest or quickest process I've seen. I filled out the paperwork and presented it and my old passport, along with my birth certificate, D/L, voters registration card, and about $90, to the postmaster. He kept the birth certificate and my old passport and sent them off to be processed with the renewal applications. Seven weeks later I get a big package that I thought was my passport, instead it was more forms and a request for 5 additional pieces of identifying paperwork that were over 7 years old, aside from the ones I had just presented. Among the list of acceptable items were photocopies of my highschool yearbook showing my photo on one of the pages, tax returns, and other official documents. I sent that back to them and it took yet another 3 weeks before I received my new passport.

Perhaps things have already started to change?

Compórtate bien, y si no puedes, invítame!
MG Rabon

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mjeble

Apr 7, 2005, 3:33 PM

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December 31, 2006 – Passport or other accepted document required for all air and sea travel to or from Mexico and Canada.

December 31, 2007 – Passport or other accepted document required for all air, sea and land border crossings.

This is a copy and paste from the site that Rolly gave. The cut off date IS Dec 31, 2007 for land border crossings into and out of Mexico the way I read it.

Myra

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Carron

Apr 7, 2005, 3:46 PM

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Your post is interesting. Are you a member of the Minutemen Patrol against immigration into the US or you against US citizens living in Mexico? Most of us ex-pats in Mexico are here because we want to live a tranquil life at much less expense than a similar life in the US. Your post seems to suggest that the reason US citizens migrate to Mexico is to protect themselves from criminal prosecution. Off base, I think.

abq

Apr 7, 2005, 3:59 PM

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If I had to show my high school yearbook pic, they would never believe that cute kid was me!

Marlene

Apr 7, 2005, 5:57 PM

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In our area we read about or know of people who have settled right in (seems beach cities attract a variety of characters), then suddenly get deported or have to leave when an unsavory or questionable history catches up to them, preventing them from getting the passport necessary for the FM-3. Or worse yet, living here under a false identity with a fairly serious criminal history up north.

Additionally, I know this is beginning to sound like a broken record, but a man without a passport could be considered a man without a country if he runs into trouble while abroad and needs emergency assistance. Things happen here all the time during foreign tourist season which require consular assistance.

(This post was edited by Marlene on Apr 7, 2005, 5:58 PM)

manda405

Apr 8, 2005, 10:55 AM

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Thank you!! My thoughts exactly.
I was born and raised in Washington state, only 1500 miles from the Mexico border. I never even fathomed getting a passport.
Even now that I am married to a Mexican and I have crossed the border 6 times in the past 3 years (3 by car and 3 by plane) I still dont' have a passport. I carry my Birth Certificate, my State issued ID and my Marriage Certificate. When I went down the last time I entered by car and had my daughter (18 months at the time) and they didnt' even ask for her documents. When I came back up (again by car) they didn't even ask for MY documentation let alone my daughter's.
Maybe a passport is more convenient than carrying 3 pieces of ID but I don't think that it should be made a requirement.

What happens down in Mexico...Stays in Mexico.

Uncle Donnie

Apr 8, 2005, 10:56 AM

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Re: [Marlene] A change in US passport requirements is coming

Hi Carron,

First let's just agree to disagree about the Minutemen. Look at my article in this month's magazine for a peek at attitudes of various shades.

And as Marlene pointed out, and I know you've been on these forums long enough to know it, there are lots of odd folks down here who probably don't serve their home countries well as ambassadors.

One was just outed in the Chapala area recently, albeit after his death, and many do seek cover to avoid facing any number of U.S. and Canadian authorities.

Chuck is correct IMO. Reporting of the facts backs him up.

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Texwheel

Apr 8, 2005, 11:24 AM

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Manda,

Let me say, however, it is really so simple to get a passport, why not?

Plus it makes any foreign ID situation so simple. Although traveler's checks are not easily used in Mexico...cambios will usually cash them...a passport is necessary to cash traveler's checks.

Your passport is Who You Are! No matter where you are at. And gets you back into your own country, no questions. It is becoming even more valuable, now. Get one. At once!
Tom Williams
Georgetown, Texas
Texwheel@aol.com

manda405

Apr 8, 2005, 11:36 AM

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I am going to get one, not only for myself but my kids as well. We are moving to Nogales, Chijuajua and I plan on working in the Tuscon area. It will make it easier for my morning commute.

I hesitate to get one for my son who will be 10 months old when we move. I don't want to get one for him untill he is older because the picture will basically be useless in a few months anyway. Does any one know if there is an alternative to a passport that doesn't involve carrying his Birth Certificate every where?

What happens down in Mexico...Stays in Mexico.

Carron

Apr 8, 2005, 5:18 PM

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I guess since our primary reason for living in Mexico is the fact that it is more affordable than Houston with a lot less government "Big Brother-ism" (for example, before we moved we were cited by the City of Houston because we were remodeling an older home and had not repainted the outside within some kind of 30 day legal limit we were not aware of and in the overall scheme of things why should this matter to anyone except possibly the tax collectors) slants my thoughts about why other people move here. I just wouldn't think first that other ex-pats are criminals or dangerous fugitives down here hiding from US justice! Apparently some of them are. Call me naive in these matters!

Unless you count the two parking tickets my husband got last time we visited my son in Houston. The city came in during the wee hours of the morning and posted no parking signs throughout the neighborhood because it was within two blocks of the high school. No fore warning, but everyone who was parked on the street after 7:00 the next morning was ticketed. Our truck was also on the "wrong" side of the street. No, we haven't paid. First notice said they would put a boot on our wheel. Last notice said if we didn't pay, Houston police would be knocking on our door. Bet they would love a chance to visit our local Boy's Town.

And yes we have passports.

Apr 8, 2005, 6:04 PM

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I just wouldn't think first that other ex-pats are criminals or dangerous fugitives down here hiding from US justice! Apparently some of them are. Call me naive in these matters!

Okay, you're "naive in these matters". But I think Carron is an easier board name to go by.

Unless you count the two parking tickets my husband got last time we visited my son in Houston. The city came in during the wee hours of the morning and posted no parking signs throughout the neighborhood because it was within two blocks of the high school. No fore warning, but everyone who was parked on the street after 7:00 the next morning was ticketed. Our truck was also on the "wrong" side of the street. No, we haven't paid.

Wow, multiple traffic violators, and scoff-laws to boot! No telling who you're liable to find hiding out down here. :-)

Regards

E&F

jennifer rose

Apr 8, 2005, 7:27 PM

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Seedy Characters

While 99.99% of the expatriate community are probably pretty law-abiding characters, there are always going to be scofflaws and outlaws among them. And some of those may be ones you just never suspected. About fifteen years ago, a 60-something man moved to Morelia, ingratiating himself with the expatriate community as nothing more than a nice old man. After a few years, some things just didn't seem to add up about the chap. A few who entrusted him to housesit found nothing missing, or at least didn't think they did, but their keys seemed newer when they returned. Some noticed little things missing after a dinner or party the man had attended. Others had heard about the man shoplifting. A few got together to compare notes, and with a little checking, it turned out that the fellow had more than a few felony warrants from Los Angeles County pending against him. And sure enough, he found himself in the local carcel awaiting a flight home accompanied by LA's finest.

There was another fellow on the lam who managed to spend several years living very, very well under an alias in San Miguel de Allende before finding himself on a trip home, escorted by agents of the US government.

While nothing irritates me more than hearing others remark that expatriates are running away from something, because most certainly are not, but there are always some bad apples in every lot.

Georgia

Apr 8, 2005, 7:59 PM

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I assume it is still done the "old" way: infants are photographed for passport purposes with their mothers. Kind of a joint passport.

jennifer rose

Apr 8, 2005, 8:25 PM

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Since a minor child must be the only subject in the passport photo, the Mother & Child passports are a thing of the past. All passports issued to those under the age of sixteen years are valid for no more than five years.

Apr 11, 2005, 7:50 AM

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Are you SURE you're ready?
Alex

wendy devlin

Apr 11, 2005, 10:50 AM

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Information about current requirements and procedures for obtaining U.S. passports and Canadian passports is available at the web-sites listed below.

Requirements change and differ from country to country so consult your country's specific website before applying.

For example, to bring our Mexican grandson back to Canada, in 2001, he was required to have his OWN passport as the law changed the month of his birth that a Canadian child could no longer travel on a parent's passport. And that particular passport was valid for only 1 year from the issue date.

Now in Canada, a passport for a child under 3 is good for 3 years but for those under and over 16, the passport is valid for 5 years.

One reason that I know some people here haven't in the past gotten passports is cost: $90 per family member, and the 5 year expiry date as compared to many other countries for which a passport is valid for 10 years.

And also for many people, going across the Canadian/US or US/Mexico border has been so easy for so long with just a driver's license, many people can't justify the cost or the bother or the inconvenience.

Personally I've always found that having a current passport for myself and especially for each of the children, tended to make border crossings easier. Hubby however has been crossing both the US and Mexican borders for the past 30 years with an expired British passport!

Although the times, they are a'changing...!

url]http://www.passportvisaexpress.com/
http://www.ppt.gc.ca/menu_e.asp

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jrice

Apr 13, 2005, 8:14 PM

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It's interesting. Does this mean that a person who is obviously a U.S. citizen, and who can present significant evidence of such, can be expelled from the United States by the U.S. government for failure to present a passport? I don't recall the word "passport" in the Constitution.

I'd bet that at some point there will be a challenge to this aspect.

Now the government has found ways to do all sorts of things: It's unconstitutional to keep you from travelling to Cuba, for example, but courts say it's legal to keep you from spending money there.

Apr 14, 2005, 4:05 AM

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Does this mean that a person who is obviously a U.S. citizen, and who can present significant evidence of such, can be expelled from the United States by the U.S. government for failure to present a passport?

No, it simply means that a passport will be required to enter the United States from outside the country.

E&F

Miguel Palomares

Apr 14, 2005, 7:42 AM

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Re: [jennifer rose] Seedy Characters

The "nice old man" was 60-something?! I take umbrage! Since when is 60-anything "old"? Why, it´s the very prime of life! Harrumph!
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Carron

Apr 14, 2005, 8:48 AM

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So if you are an American citizen and you are out of the country without a passport, (but presumably with other forms of ID) can the US border security refuse your re-entry into the States?????

Apr 14, 2005, 9:13 AM

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One of the what used to be called INS' Mission Statement is "To expedite reentry of US citizens to the United States of America." Your passport facilitates that activity.
Alex

bournemouth

Apr 14, 2005, 11:31 AM

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We cross the border at Nogales frequently and on one of our recent returns, we offered our passports and the officer said "Honest to goodness travel documents, not drivers' licences or voters registration cards" and waved us on. In this day and age I can't imagine trying to cross the border without a passport.

Apr 14, 2005, 12:16 PM

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So if you are an American citizen and you are out of the country without a passport, (but presumably with other forms of ID) can the US border security refuse your re-entry into the States?????

I'll assume your question is in regards to re-entry once the new regulation goes into effect? Also, are you asking about some other form of identification that proves you are a U.S. citizen, (like what for instance? Few people still resemble their birth certificate photos), or other form of identification that shows that (legally or otherwise) you have a residence in the U.S. (drivers license, etc)?

My guess is that they can, at a minimum, make your life difficult in proving your right to enter the country.

Unless people like wasting their time and effort making a point with government officials, I think they'd be well advised to start working on getting a passport.

jmho

E(&F)

Texwheel

Apr 16, 2005, 9:10 AM

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