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joshjay

Feb 3, 2003, 7:21 AM

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I havent bought a house and am considering moving down in the late spring and knowing what there is to do would be helpful. Maybe its just common sense. If you love animals, it appears that there is a lovely woman who devotes her life to taking in stray cats and dogs - she could use some help Im sure. If you like kids, I imagine there is an orphanage nearby that needs volunteers. If you like sitting and watching people, I imagine there is a bench or two to do that. I guess its like any other place, you find what you want. I'd like to fly down but right now the cost of a roundtrip ticket from Florida is $500 - 600 which seems excessive to me. Just waiting for a price break.

zapata Bob

Feb 3, 2003, 8:31 PM

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Keep your eye on the airfares, they make little sense! I happened to go by a trev. agnt's in San Antonio today. Fare to Dallas, about $495., from Chicago abot $295! What kind of sense does that make?

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Feb 4, 2003, 1:03 AM

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Have you thought about the ferrry from Tampa? Worth looking into and the price is right. Then you have your first class buses in Mexico, very comfortable, to go anywhere you want to be. Your trip through the Yucatan will be unforgettable......anyway, check this out.

lucy

Feb 4, 2003, 4:06 AM

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What do you do now? What would you like to do? What ever you want is there, like anywhere else. All you have to do is look. I'm sure you have spent some time there if you already own a house there.

I have also seen some people that wait for something to attract their attention. They sit on the porch and wait. Nothing ever happens. Create an agenda...

dzn

Feb 4, 2003, 1:36 PM

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Weight for a rainbow ? ...

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Feb 4, 2003, 5:05 PM

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Try airfare.com. I just got rountrip tickets for $300 less than I could anywhere else. Very happy with them. Their service is a little weird, but the ticket arrived and the price was right.

Feb 4, 2003, 6:23 PM

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Joshjay,what to do in lakeside just ask jeanie,i think her bottle has been rubbed a little to much.

DISH2000

Feb 5, 2003, 10:54 AM

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Your are right, Jay.

There is nothing to do here, at least what some people think. If you think that all your troubles are going to disappear when you get here, usally it´s for the worst. Drug addicts can get their drugs cheap and easy. Liquour is very cheap as well. If you are a sex maniac, They are servial local Whore houses in the area, But this is the sadness of many, many expats who live here. Even I am American by birth. I have been here more that 35 years, more than anyone else who has been on this site. I was just interview with a docomentury about Americans/Canadians living here for along time. They did not want the snowbird/Sundbird/transplant gringos that have been here that are hidding or escaping their personal problems from NORTH. Many are here for the cheap cost of living, high taxes, or climate of they formal country. A quite a few of Americans and and just as many Canadian, more so in % wise for a country that only has 10% of the population of the U.S.

What I am trying to say that everyday people like you, sell their homes in Hicksville, US or whereever, selling the hardware store, kissing the kides/Grandkides good bye, with a copy of "How to live in Mexico for $5 dollars a day" issue 1982 in hand and move to a country they neither speak the language, know the customs, or tradicions of Mexico. And they complain about the illegals in their country...heheh. Buying/renting a house for about 3 times the amout anywhere else inside the country. Food in the stores are very expensive, more so than Guad. and prices are keep going up........

The very sad thing is once they have settled, The wife misses the kides. Crying, wants to go back, He wants to stay. Why??? Why at a older stage of life you want to change the way that you are use to......WHY????

The interest rates, which many retires live on, have dropped, unless you are wealthy other than a monthly check that you get. Many work ILLEGALLY, which I am 100% against. If they can not afford to live here. ...Go back to you old country and get help.

If you can overcome the things I said, Go ahead. Take the risk. Do not exploit the Mexicans, help them, feed them, educate them, clothe them, what little time in life you may have, and find peace. They people will love you and you will no be the ugly gringo in the group that start rumors at the local Donut shop.

Even Adam and Eve got bored in Eden...........

DISH2000

Jeannie

Feb 5, 2003, 1:50 PM

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Wow!! And people thought my comments were harsh.

pedro naco

Feb 5, 2003, 4:14 PM

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read your post carefully dish2000,you sound very much like the people you just ranted against-i suggest you not paint us all with the same brush-if i for one minute thought that all mexicans were like you(and i base my observation singularily on your post) i would not have anything to do with them -but fortunately that is not the case and in my declining years i will not spend my hard earned $ on feeding ,clothing etc. etc. a bunch of strangers-but i will interact and try and improve their skills for self-help.

you can GIVE a man a fish-but if you teach a man to fish.......

btw-there are quite a few mexicans living in edmonton canada-the northern most major city in north america-those people had courage and i don't know anyone who told them to go back to villageville mexico.

see your priest and ask him to help chip away the stone surrounding your hardened heart or is it your brain that has atrophied.

there is nothing worse than prejudice-it's a learned and cherished ignorance.

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Feb 5, 2003, 4:55 PM

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Edmonton, major city, ha ha ha ha ha. Sorry Pedro, you know I couldn't resist. All in good fun.

(If one removes The Edmonton mall from the equation would it still have that designation?)

pedro naco

Feb 5, 2003, 6:33 PM

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c,mon lj-let's not get the moderators mad at us for getting off topic and chatting about the wonders of dear old edmonchuk.

btw-if we got rid of all those auslanders that frequent the mall you're probably right ,we would loose the city designation because the population would drop from 850,000 to 85-that would make it a village-SNORK!

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Feb 5, 2003, 6:43 PM

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geez, I read dish's post a couple of times. Could be a grinch, but I'm not so sure. Could be an old guy (I'm workin on it) just speakin' his mind. Hey DISH, wanna add any comments?
" let sleeping dogs lie"

Feb 5, 2003, 6:47 PM

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oops, sorry. I have not regained control with my more sensical personality and have duly chastised the other ... hee hee. My apologies. (btw, Toledo has almost the same population ... blah ha ha aha ha ha ha ... oops, bet someone out there considers toledo a major city, too, hee hee.)

Please excuse the previous interruption. Those involved have been fired. You will now return to your scheduled program.

pedro naco

Feb 5, 2003, 6:51 PM

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ho ha-wat yu smokin there lj

JR Cortesi

Feb 5, 2003, 9:34 PM

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Either way, your brain will get the effects, no matter where it is located. You sound a lot like one of the multiple personalities of Jeannie!!

DISH2000

Feb 9, 2003, 9:23 PM

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Maybe you think that I am harsh, But to most of us oldtimers, you are just a bad example of the Ugly Gringo. Do you care about this country?? Do you have any Mexican friends?? ¿¿Hablas Español?? I am speaking my mind, and you might not like what I have to say. I just hate to see how some of these Gringos treat the people here in the village. Go home!! Besides, The cost of living is cheaper in Belize and they speak English there.........DISH2000

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DISH2000

Feb 9, 2003, 9:31 PM

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Peter,

This was just what I had on my mind when I seen the comment. Most Gringos here are very good and quite nice. I just makes me mad to see these trailer trash people who do not have better to do than to exploit the poor, hard working class here in Ajijic. Maybe life is different for you in the frozen North. But seen these people making arses out of them selfs, Makes me sick. I did not mean to offend anyone or person. Again, I was just saying what was on my mind.

DISH2000

skwala

Feb 10, 2003, 12:17 AM

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I applaud your attitude and lifestyle of blending with Mexican culture, guiding Ugly Americans back in the land they must truly long for.

(I wonder whether the original correspondent might have been a bit facetious with his question.) In any event, we found many things to do in Mex. We totally agree with you, DISH 2000. If they are bored and homesick for johnny-on-the-spot employees, just as back in the good ol' USA/Canada, then they need to return PRONTO to their old digs up north. We haven't moved down yet because of some financial reversals which need to stabilize. I'm also working on building fluency in speaking and reading español so I won't take so long to blend a bit more readily...I respect the people of mexico too much to expect them to conform to my language any longer than es necessario. ¡Gracias!

robert kimball123

Feb 10, 2003, 7:33 AM

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A person who sneered at non-English speaking Mexican residents of the U.S. in the way some of you are sneering at non-Spanish speaking residents of Mexico might be called a racist.

DISH2000

Feb 10, 2003, 10:05 PM

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Kudos!! And Thanks, I am glad to see at least someone educated out there can see where I am coming from. My fears that most people on this site were not very agreeable. To become part of a culture, Mexican, one must become part of that culture. I am glad to see that you are studying Español. Not trying to change the people in speaking English. I wish others would take a good example of your dedication like yours. ¡Bueña Suerte!

DISH2000

Quote from the movie, The Professionals, (1966)

Bandito; Hey Gringo, Why do you come to Mexico??

Lee Marvin; I tell you, But do not laugh.....

Bandito; (Holding a knife to his neck) WHY DO YOU COME TO MEXICO, GRINGO??

Lee Marvin; I come for two things, the women and the Tequila!!

THINGS DO NOT CHANGE!!!!

DISH2000

Feb 10, 2003, 10:20 PM

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I am forced to see that you are responding how a American would see this.... This is not a racial slur or comment. The way a Mexican would say in español into English. If you do not like where you are, you can alway go back where youare from, or the American saying, When in Rome, do what the Romans do... Mexicans do not see this as why are you different?? Not us. You can adapt or go back. The American see this as, We do not care where you come from, us act or do the things how we do it. This is very diffucult to explain this in words. As many years that I have been here, I know they have accepted me and tell me things that no other foreigner would hear. They say, stupid gringo this and that, reminding them that I am still a gringo, They also remind me as well that I am not a GRINGO!!! American yes, GRINGO NO!!!

DISH2000

Taz

Feb 11, 2003, 4:33 AM

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Why do Canadians wear Canadian flag pins on their clothing... Is it because they don't want to thought of as Americans ??

pedro naco

Feb 11, 2003, 5:03 AM

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i don't wear the flag pin but i always carry my hockey stick and a puck in my pocket

edna

Feb 11, 2003, 7:22 AM

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"i always carry my hockey stick and a puck in my pocket"

I thought you were pleased to see Me or the "scenery"

pedro naco

Feb 11, 2003, 7:32 AM

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perhaps you're refering to the other pocket-oh great dame

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Feb 11, 2003, 7:46 PM

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If he can't find anything to do, we could always recommend he get an Mpeg-2 satellite receiver

obe

Feb 12, 2003, 8:16 AM

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This post is an excellant example of what I have been saying.

Some one asked a simple question, asking about what some people have found to occupy there time/life in a area of Mexico.

What did they get????? 26 replies, 26 replies basiclly criticizing, belittleing them and telling them to get lost.

May I suggest that one reads the original question, then the 26 replies and make up your own mind about paying to use this site.

good night to all

joshjay

Feb 12, 2003, 12:14 PM

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I asked the question and judging by the responses I would say that most of those who answered whereever they live didn't have much to do as evidenced by the off-the-wall responses to a simple question. Despite it all, I'd pay for the use of the site as there is a wealth of information - just need to weed it out.

DISH2000

Feb 13, 2003, 8:10 PM

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Name calling, heh!!!!

What is a Canadian??

80% American

20% Brittish

Make 100% Canadian culture........hehehe.

You drew first blood..........Rambo.

You got to have a good laugh.............DISH2000

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Feb 13, 2003, 8:13 PM

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Believe me, They would not know what to do with one........DISH

DISH2000

Feb 13, 2003, 8:23 PM

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Thank you for making that point.... Most of these people, I am trying to be nice, are what I have trying to get away from the last 35 years. A poor example about living in Mexico. Most of these people do not live here and/or can not afford to. If they were here, They would out there trying to experience a new culture or language. I myself do not like to see the garbage that some of these people write. Here in Mexico or anywhere, They still are the same.......DISH2000

robert kimball123

Feb 14, 2003, 12:17 PM

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But you obviously do hate gringos. You really are a bigot.

arbon

Feb 14, 2003, 1:42 PM

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What am I to think?

"But you obviously do hate gringos. You really are a bigot." to DISH2000

Then you ask the question...

"I plan to take a cheap flight to Mexico City and then go to Guadalajara by bus. Is there anything wrong with that idea."

Do you know something about Mexicans & Gringos,but not near D.F. or Guad' or is it more like .......You know more about "hate" & "bigots" than....

DISH2000

Feb 14, 2003, 6:34 PM

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Post: Replying to: Re: [DISH2000] What is there to do??? by robert kimball123 Post: But you obviously do hate gringos. You really are a bigot.

Obviously you do not know what is a gringo, And yes, I am a Bigot. I am a bigot to a group of people or person that move to a foreign country whom are too stubborn not to accept change of culture, language, and customs. For this, I am guilty.

Gringo(noun) means in Español a foreigner in a foreign land (mexico)

Gringo(adj) also can mean Unintelligible (a gringo, or some of the comments I see on this site)

Unintelligible(adj) a person at fault of understanding......... mmmhhhh.

Bigot(noun) a person devoted to one group......Interesting.

Robert, I do not want to get nasty with you, I just want to show you and others what the ways that you are use too are not always the right way. Many years ago in my youth, My family traveled near and a far. My strict family reminded me that we were ambassadors for our country, Many of the people here have never been outside of their own country, do not know how to act. I saying, remember your P´s and Q´s.

DISH2000

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Feb 14, 2003, 6:45 PM

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Ditto.......I could not have said it better. That is the point I was trying to say. I do not have anything against saving money. But these people want to live on the CHEAP 24/7. I can spot them in the crowds, They wear the cheap shorts, black socks/sandals, and $200US in the pocket. Three weeks later, They still are wearing the same shorts/black socks/sandals and still have the same $200US in their pocket. The last thing the Mexican Tourism board wants is a bunch of cheap people,

DISH2000

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sparks

Feb 14, 2003, 7:01 PM

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I've not heard that phrase (well almost) since my grandmother used to get after me as a bad kid. Guess I don't really care how old ... but I assume not Mexican. Not sure grandma or I ever knew the original.

3. In English pubs, ale is ordered by pints and quarts. So in old England, when customers got unruly, the bartender would yell at them to mind their own pints and quarts and settle down. It's where we get the phrase "Mind your P's and Q's."

Old Sayings, and Where They Came From

http://www.suddenlysenior.com/oldsayings.html

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DISH2000

Feb 14, 2003, 7:11 PM

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I am a very, very old soul. I think you know what I mean. I have met very young people who acted more mature than their fathers, and old men who acted like they were teenagers. I am somewhere in between.

Great website.......DISH2000

beccasue

Feb 14, 2003, 8:46 PM

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Excellent point. By the way, I was wondering if you
could write a letter of reference for me. You see,
I work in social services here in Florida, but can't get
a job because I am not bilingual. I am tired of appologizing for the fact that I only speak the official language of the country.

And, yes, my husband IS Mexican, and I have taught
many of his family to speak English. And, I intend to
learn Spanish before moving to Mexico, so I can
live as a non-Gringo. Now, what should we do
about the 'Gringos' here in the USA?

Richard

Feb 14, 2003, 8:54 PM

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Then Mexicans Coming to AMERICA should do ONLY THE Same ??? I mean those are your words? With the actuaries reversed .

We should but you shouldn't have to .

Your very sick. Must be sad though living in such delusion

DISH2000

Feb 17, 2003, 1:19 PM

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Richard,

You miss understand me. I think all people who move to the US, Mexicans too, MUST SPEAK ENGLISH!!! and become apart of the AMERICAN CULTURE!!!

The same for people from the US and Canada, IF THEY MOVE HERE; THEY SHOULD SPEAK SPANISH AND BECOME PART OF THE MEXICAN CULTURE!!!

I agree on some of the things you have to say, I am sure you heard of the following..." When in Rome, Do as the Romans do...."

DISH2000

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Feb 17, 2003, 5:24 PM

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Thanks,

I do know quite a few of the immigration people in Guad. I could not write a letter for you, because I do not know you at all. I am sorry. But your Mexican Husband can help you more than I. It is far easier for an American female to get papers married to a Mexican Male than an American Male getting papers married to a Mexican female.This is the reason that so many American Men take their Mexican girlfriends to the States to get married, besides the special permission that you must have. You got to have $$$ here to even to look at you. Mexican Gov. want people here that have $$$ to invest. Makes sence....

I would not move to Mexico to give up a good job you have in Florida, This reminds me of a story of a fireman from Chicago, Young man around 35 years old, was making around $35,000 or more a year, Wanted to become a fireman in Ajijic. I told him if he would be lucky if he made $3,500 PESOS A YEAR!!!! He took my advice and is going to work until retirement. That what I would do, I met a young retired couple in their 50´s, living on a nice little nest egg, then the market when bad. Now they have NO $$ and have to go back to work. Wait until you feel you have enough to live on, because no one makes the big bucks in Mexico these days, ask the real estate people.

DISH2000

robert kimball123

Feb 20, 2003, 9:44 AM

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Wow, what a non-sequitor!

Just incidentally, I spent three year teaching various subects in both English and Spanish and serving as the director of the Bicultural at ITESM, Campus Sonora Norte

arbon

Feb 20, 2003, 10:34 AM

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"Wow, what a non-sequitor!

Just incidentally, I spent three year teaching various subects in both English and Spanish and serving as the director of the Bicultural at ITESM, Campus Sonora Norte"

That would explain how you are able to keep your cool....& know the difference between a "Cedar" & a "Redwood"

PS ...my mother wove non-sequitors,for Benny Hill.

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manana

Feb 28, 2003, 6:28 PM

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In Reply To

"i always carry my hockey stick and a puck in my pocket"

I thought you were pleased to see Me or the "scenery"