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Rolly

Jan 2, 2012, 8:30 PM

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Carol Schmidt of www.fallinginlovewithsanmiguel.com (and co-author of my book) has conducted an e-mail interview with the head of the INM office in San Miguel de Allende. Read the interview here.

Rolly Pirate

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chicois8

Jan 2, 2012, 8:52 PM

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Thank you Rolly......

La Isla

Jan 2, 2012, 10:17 PM

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Thanks from me also, Rolly!

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Jan 3, 2012, 1:49 PM

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tx rolly. When I read the comment at the end from the poster who was concerned about volunteering, my thoughts were "Don't ask; don't tell." :)
Sandy Kramer
Miami, Fla & El Parque

Judy in Ags

Jan 4, 2012, 6:29 PM

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Thanks from us, too, Rolly. It appears that not much of anything is engraved in stone with the frequent "Yes, so far." answers. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Our visa is to be renewed in March, so with the 3-4 mo. period that was mentioned, I'm doubting that anything will be "for sure" by the time we renew.

If I had the opportunity to ask someone who knows, two of my questions would be: Okay, we don't need to go through the renewal process every year--only every four years. We'll be required to submit a letter, however, which states that there have been no changes since the last renewal. What about fees? is one thing I would ask. I can't imagine their giving up that revenue!

The other question I'd ask is, What about vehicles? Currently (under the old FM3), we're permitted to have a vehicle here. Does that rule change?

Oh, and another--it appears that the fee for the former FM3 and FM2 (now combined into one visa) will be the same--the rate of the old FM3.

Who knows? We'll keep watching and waiting.

Rolly

Jan 4, 2012, 6:51 PM

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From a lawyer who posted on another board:
"Early indications are that you will be able to renew for periods of one to four years with costs being $3,130 for a single year; two years for $4,690; $5,940 for three years and $7,040 for a four year visa."

Aduana makes the car rules. INM has nothing to do with cars.

Rolly Pirate

Ric Hoffman

Jan 5, 2012, 12:45 PM

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The new regulation implementing the recently passed Ley de Migración has not been published yet. Although there have been numerous internet posts claiming updated information and changes, do not be confused by them. Until the new regulation is published in the DOF, the old laws, rules and terms are still in effect. The fees have increased effective the first of the year.

Derecho por Servicios Migratorios Ordinarios (D.S.M.O) lists the updated fees (in NMP) as of Jan 1, these fees are structured using the current Prórroga and Refrendo terms. The following is a recap of the most used procedures:

Procedure 2011 / 2012
Changing from FMM to FM2/3 N$491 / 550
Prórroga for FM3 N$1294 / 1451
Refrendo for FM2 N$2801 / 3140
Declaration of Inmigrado N$3414 / 3828
Processing fee for Inmigrado N$892 / 1000
Registro Nacional de Extranjeros N$669 / 750

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clariboe

Feb 19, 2012, 10:08 AM

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Is there a requirement to start the application for a temporary resident visa at a consulate before moving down?

Rolly

Feb 19, 2012, 10:36 AM

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The law seems to say that, but the final rules will spell it out in detail.

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cbviajero

Feb 19, 2012, 10:51 AM

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I have to renew my FM2 in May if I can pay 3 or 4 years in advance that would be great,save a lot of time and money,has anyone done that?
Chris

robt65

Feb 19, 2012, 11:18 AM

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It's good to read this one employees and Head of a city office or not, he is still an employee and CHA well with all the "so Far" and "Yes, more or less" answers really are up in the air. As far as one cn really tell it appears the only known facts today are the new fees and the combining of the old FM3/no Inmigrante and FM2/Inmigrante visas into a new Temporary Resident visa.

It would be nice if she would now contact Aduana and see what she can learn about car licenses as they will apply to the new "Temporary Resident Visa's and the new Permanente Immigrant Visa status. This, I would think would certainly be a big determining factor of a lot of folks.

I was getting ready to buy a different vehicle of an age that I could import reasonably enough, but now I think that waiting until Aduana catches up with INM. I think a big enticement for INM would be to get together with Aduana and set a separate rate for folks coming into Mexico on a Permanent immigrant visa and make it more realistic. This would also bring a better quality and safer vehicle into Mexico. But I guess that is just "pipe dreaming"!!!

Robt65

sparks

Feb 19, 2012, 2:18 PM

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The 2-3-4 year option may come up with the new regs but is not offered now.

This was just posted on TomZap but the rest of the post was confusing about when and how to do it

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Since February 17Th 2012, the IMMIGRATION OFFICE in Manzanillo will change the appointment system, from now on you must call to the following phone numbers in order to set your appointment ; (314) 33 218 44 , 33 217 30 or 33 200 30 then press option 1.
If you prefer set your appointment on line contact the following e-mail address srmcolim [at] inami.gob.mx

Sparks Mexico - Sparks Costalegre

dstan

Feb 19, 2012, 8:39 PM

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I am going to apply to have my immigration status changed from FMM to FM3. Most of the posts talk about filling out a form on line and then printing it out. I have a computer but no printer. My question is, can I make application in person, and fill out the form in the office? Do I have to do it on the computer? I will be making my application at the Bucerias office. Anyone have information about what documents are required here? thanks

Rolly

Feb 19, 2012, 9:16 PM

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Some offices have computers for applicants to use. But a printout is not absolutely required. What is required is the file number that will be generated by the online application. If you take that number to the INM office, they can call up your application. If you have a memory stick, you can take the file to an internet cafe to print it. It will be a PDF file.

Check my website for more details.

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dstan

Mar 6, 2012, 8:21 AM

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OK so I made my application to change immigration status from FMM to FM3 (old system still in place) in the Bucerias office. It was a snap, only take a book and get there early. they close at 1:00. I completed the form on line and DID NOT PRINT IT OUT, but saved the file number. They pulled it up in the office. I did have to fill out as second form referred to as the BASICO. Ask for it when you arrive so you can fill it out while waiting.
I needed:
a photocopy of the front pages of my passport
the required photos (they take them 2 door down from the office, and there is a copy machine also)
and electric bill to prove residence
and copies of the last 3 months bank statements.

With all these he gave me a form and told me to go to the bank, where I paid around 500 pesos (maybe a bit more)
then I went back and he gave me another paper with website where I check to see if my card is in. I will have to make one more trip to pick it up and I think I have another fee as it is my first application. It was easy. All you need is time!

Now my dilemma is how do I get my car permit extended so I do not loose my deposit. Anyone have updated ideas on that one???
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RickS

Mar 6, 2012, 9:01 AM

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"Now my dilemma is how do I get my car permit extended so I do not loose my deposit. Anyone have updated ideas on that one???"

Nothing has changed here (yet?). Once you have acquired your FM3 status, you must go to your local Aduana office within 15 days (or maybe it's 30) to notify them of your immigration status change. Not doing so will cause your deposit to be forfeited and will also make your car illegal. Your TIP (temporary vehicle import permit) will then be associated with your new immigration status and will be good so long as your visa remains valid, including renewals.

bournemouth

Mar 6, 2012, 9:22 AM

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But these days you do need to notify Aduana that your visa has been renewed for another year - and in order to have time to do this and safeguard your deposit, you need to start renewal on your visa right on the 30 day prior to expiration mark.

RickS

Mar 6, 2012, 9:25 AM

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Yes, thanks for that clarification....

dstan

Mar 6, 2012, 9:25 AM

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what do you mean by 'local aduana'? From other postings I understand that the one in PV cant/won't do it? and do I have to go in person??

RickS

Mar 6, 2012, 9:29 AM

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So what's new in Mexico?!?

Well, those are the rules. Maybe someone 'local' who has been successful in notifying Aduana of their change/renewal can chime in.

Rolly

Mar 6, 2012, 9:33 AM

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Read this. It will tell you all you need to know.
http://rollybrook.com/car-in-México.htm

Rolly Pirate

dstan

Mar 6, 2012, 9:38 AM

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Thanks Rolly, I have read your post. But I have also read others who said they DHLed the letter and never heard anything back. I was just hoping to hear from someone who had satisfactory results with a letter. Can I mail to the Aduana in Guadalaraja also?

sparks

Mar 6, 2012, 11:30 AM

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I wouldn't trust mail or DHL. Here's the proceedure in Manzanillo from the TomZap board

For those caught in this Catch 22 situation here is the process to follow to keep from loosing your deposit.

1. You need to have renewed your visa and still have at least 2 days before your present deposit term expires.
2. You need to take all the documents below to the main Aduana building in Manzanillo (directions below documents list).
3. You need to go into the Aduana building and go to the center kiosk. There you will be asked to present your documents and will speak via telephone to a customs agent to confirm that you have all the necessary forms with you. Then you will be given 3 copies of a customs form and these need to be filled in (simple information only required), be sure to take a pen.
4. With this form complete you will be directed to the customs processing windows in the corner of the building. When asked present all your forms which will include 3 copies of the following:
A. The forms you just filled out at the center kiosk.
B. The Importation Deposit form you received when you entered Mexico and paid the deposit (I also had my Banjercito receipt but was not asked for that).
C. Your currant FM 2 or 3 visa, both sides copied.
D. The photo page of your passport. (I did not have mine but they processed my forms anyway!)
E. The sheet you received when you imported your vehicle that had the windshield decal attached.
F. Your vehicle registration
So that should be a total of 18 sheets to feed the jaws of the Aduana paperwork monster.....

Sparks Mexico - Sparks Costalegre

DavidHF

Mar 6, 2012, 12:56 PM

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For those who live Lakeside, Spencer's office will prepare the letter and take it to Aduana at GDL for $250 Pesos. Shortly after they delivered by letter I rec'd a copy of a letter that GDL Aduana sent to Nogales Aduana (where I got my TIP) advising them of the details. A couple of weeks later I rec'd a registered letter from Nogales Aduana clearly stating that my TIP was good thru the exp. date of my Non-Imigrante Credencial.

sioux4noff

Mar 6, 2012, 8:44 PM

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told me to go to the bank, where I paid around 500 pesos (maybe a bit more)

I think it is quite a bit more to get an FM3. I have an FM2 (old terminology, I know) and it is MUCH more.

Rolly

Mar 6, 2012, 9:08 PM

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Dstan, you paid $550 pesos to change from FMM to FM3.
You will also have to pay $2,145 pesos for the actual FM3.

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robt65

Mar 7, 2012, 5:11 AM

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Good Morning dstan,

You're really making it much more difficult than it has to be. I recently (6 months ago) made my renewal of my FM2 in Queretaro. I simply went to the Aduana office and presented my renewed FM2 as well as copies of my vehicles registration and my insurance papers. I also had a copy of both my NOB drivers license and my passport. I did not have a copy of the form.

The office staff couldn't have been more helpful. Most of the copies I brought along with the originals (passport, insurance, etc.), were not required or asked for and the official gave them back to me. All he was interested in was the new FM2 and the NOB state registration of the vehicle. He even filled in all the blanks confirming the answers with me. There was no charge and I was presented a copy of the form with an Aduana stamp on it and that was all there was to it. A very simple process that took no longer than 15 minutes. I hope this helps you relax a little about renewing your permit.

I keep the permit (original) along with a copy of the vehicles registration, insurance and my permit with a receipt on a clipboard on my dash so it is always handy in case I go through a checkpoint. I also have a two axle cargo trailer and had the trailer extended as well with the Tahoe as the trailer is on the same permit as the Tahoe. I have traveled both inside and outside Mexico with and without the trailer attached to the vehicle. I am getting ready to cross back into Texas again and coming back within a couple of weeks. I plan to cross without my trailer attached and come back into Mexico again without the trailer attached.

I have been asked at checkpoints a few times where the trailer is. I tell the officer it is at my home in Queretaro as it is empty and I am not going to pay the extra gas for hauling around an empty trailer. This has always been a satisfactory answer for them.

The permit is valid as far as I know and there is nothing stopping the crossing either way at this point in time. Relax and try not to make the process more difficult than it is, which is not difficult at all.

I hope this personal recent experience helps you a little.

robt65

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sioux4noff

Mar 7, 2012, 9:15 AM

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That is great for those who live near a "participating" Aduana office, but not helpful for those who don't.

robt65

Mar 7, 2012, 9:34 AM

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Hi sioux4noff,

Yes, you certainly have a point there. Before I knew my Aduana office was in the city of Querétaro, about 30 minutes away by car, but still closer than a lot of folks, I thought I was going to have to go to DF as a result of being told that by the person who answered the phone at the Aduana office, and that I had to appear in person. I still believe that you have to go to an Aduana office in person though, at least that is what I was told. Maybe I was told that, because I live within a half hour of an Aduana office, I don't really know.

Regards,

robt65

bournemouth

Mar 7, 2012, 10:19 AM

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At least in the Lake Chapala/Guadalajara area you do not have to appear in person. We had a facilitator take care of it all and it was well worth every centavo we paid him.

Ric Hoffman

Mar 7, 2012, 10:21 AM

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I am passing this on for those who reside in other areas of the country. Call the toll free number to see which Aduana office services your area and what is required for you and use the attached fill-in form. Following the instructions listed on the form has satisfied the requirements in Michoacan.

Those who would like a fill-in-able pdf copy of the request letter can send me a private email request.

Ric Hoffman
61609 Pátzcuaro, Michoacán, México

Subject: Re: Aduana Letter in PDF

Hi Ric, I thought I would let you know my experience with the Aduana people. I went to the international airport here in Oaxaca and spoke to the Aduana. They (mis) informed me that with my new FM3, all was well and I didn't need to have a letter stamped. I showed them the law, spoke to them for about 30 minutes, and left empty handed. They sent me up to Banercito. Banercito wasn't able to assist. I phoned the Aduana on their toll free number 18004636728, then pressed options 7, then 2, then 2 then 1 then 1 and spoke to a fellow there who spoke English, Sr Azur Bravo. He told me that the Oaxaca Airport was not set up to take my letter and that I had to go to Puebla or Salina Cruz (the 2 closest locations to us that had Customs offices which could deal with this). So we went to Puebla, a 4 hour drive, and waited about an hour for the appropriate guy to come to work. He then stamped the original and 2 copies and returned 2 to me.

It is very aggravating that when the Aduana takes your deposit money at the border they do not tell you the locations that you can go to to get your reporting letter stamped, but it is what it is.

Thanks again for your help

dstan

Mar 7, 2012, 2:21 PM

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Thanks for the information...sounds easy IF you visit office in person. I figure it will cost me more than the $200 deposit to travel to Guadalajara, with gas, accommodations etc. I have yet to hear from someone who has successfully done this by mail. Im leaning towards just forfeiting my deposit but will keep up the research. Thanks again

tashby

Mar 7, 2012, 4:27 PM

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Boy has this thread taken a detour. (Car-related pun!)

Regarding the need to notify Aduana of visa status and/or changes. Does this only apply to those who are trying to protect the deposit on a recently imported vehicle? We imported our car in 2008, before they started requiring a deposit, and have never bothered chasing down Aduana with papers in hand. Were we supposed to do that?

Sorry. I'm sure this has been asked and answered before, but I haven't been paying attention. Thanks!

P.S./ADDITION: Never mind, this section from Rolly's always helpful website makes me think that yes, it really only has to do with the deposit, and not the legality of the vehicle:

FROM ROLLYBROOK.COM

If you got your permit before 11 June 2011 and did not post a cash bond, you can skip the following section -- it doesn't apply to you, and you don't have to do a thing when you renew or change your visa. Your vehicle permit stays valid just like Article 106 says.

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bournemouth

Mar 7, 2012, 4:38 PM

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Current thinking is "yes" - we did it and our vehicles came in during 2005 and 2006. A friend was stopped at a road block during the PanAm Games and informed that his papers were no good - on producing the customs letter, all became well.

We were stopped by a Federale outside Manzanillo who had the same problem and we had to talk a lot to convince him that Article 106 made our papers still valid - having the letter from customs saves some of these hassles.

Ric Hoffman

Mar 7, 2012, 4:54 PM

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The law still requires you to notify the Aduana of your INM changes within 15 days of the event. If not done within the time frame, you will lose any deposit posted but your vehicle is still legal; however you must still notify them of your changes.

Rolly

Mar 14, 2012, 12:30 PM

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I was at my INM office this morning to pick up my renewed Inmigrante (FM2) card.
I asked when the new rules would start. The lady said she did not know, only "soon."
She said most of the work is done; only a few things remain unfinished
When all is done, the new rules will be published before they start.

Rolly Pirate

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Mar 14, 2012, 12:56 PM

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Considering the fact that these forthcoming changes first started speculation on this forum over a year ago, maybe progress is being made?
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM

Kimpatsu Hekigan

Mar 14, 2012, 3:03 PM

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Rolly sez:

I was at my INM office this morning to pick up my renewed Inmigrante (FM2) card.

When you applied for the refrendo, were you required to submit a carta de solicitud in addition to all the usual documentation, photos, etc.?

If so, could you point to a sample letter on-line for requesting an FM-2 (Inmigrante) renewal ?

Thanks,

-- K.H.

Before enlightenment: Chop wood, haul water.
After enlightenment: Chop wood, haul water.

Rolly

Mar 14, 2012, 4:06 PM

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Written for me by an INM lady.

Instituto Nacional de Migración
Subdelegación Local en [your city]

Re: Pieza 01234567890 [ your application file number]
Por medio de la presente, solicito a Ud. El primer refrendo de mi inmigrante.[FM2 number] para vivir de los recursos traídos del exterior con domicilio en [your city, state], así e entorno bajo protesta de decir verdad que subsisten bajo las mismas condicionas que me fue autorizado.

Rolly Pirate

eyePad

Mar 14, 2012, 10:06 PM

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Rolly, good for you if the letter worked but you should have an educated native speaker review it. It has errors. I've noticed that sometimes an office worker in Mexico will be rather sloppy (and perhaps uneducated).
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Mar 14, 2012, 10:50 PM

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If you see errors in the letter, perhaps you could point them out.

Rolly Pirate

Ric Hoffman

Mar 15, 2012, 6:41 AM

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This is what I have used for many years for myself and others. Some agents accept a very simple letter in Spanish stating that you love Mexico and want to continue your stay here.
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Por medio de la presente el que subscribe (name) de nacionalidad estadounidense con pasaporte No. 00000000 y FM2 No. 0000000 mediante el presente escrito solicito la segundo refrendo de mi FM2 como inmigrante rentista.

Manifieste que subsisten las condiciones bajo las cuales le fue concedida la característica migratoria, que continua viviendo de sus recursos procedentes del extranjero. Para acreditar que continua viviendo de sus recursos procedentes del extranjero, anexar tres últimos estados de cuentas. Manifestando que continúo realizando la misma actividad y viviendo en el mismo domicilio.

Bajo protesta de decir verdad y apercibido de las sanciones que corresponden a quienes proporcionen información falsa ante la autoridad migratoria.

Sin más por el momento y en espera de su aprobación quedo como su atenta y seguro servidor.

Atentamente,

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eyePad

Mar 15, 2012, 9:31 AM

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Just my quick attempt:
Por medio de la presente, solicito a Ud. el primer refrendo de mi inmigrante.[FM2 number] para vivir de los recursos traídos del exterior con domicilio en [your city, state], bajo protesta de decir verdad que subsisten las mismas condiciones bajo las cuales me fue autorizada la misma característica migratoria.

así e entorno - doesn't make any sense, its illiterate anyway
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Rolly

Mar 15, 2012, 9:20 PM

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Thank you for taking the time to help me wth this.
A friend has made some changes. Better now?

Por medio de la presente, solicito a usted un refrendo de mi inmigrante.[FM2 number] para vivir de los recursos traídos del exterior con domicilio en [your city, state]. Yo protesto de decir la verdad que subsisto bajo las mismas condiciones que me fue autorizada.

Rolly Pirate

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eyePad

Mar 16, 2012, 8:10 AM

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You're welcome Rolly. I think that sounds fine (to my ear anyway).
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jrpierce

Mar 23, 2012, 1:04 PM

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I just saw this article posted on one of the ex-pat internet boards: http://www.mexperience.com/...mexicoliving/?p=2303

I was unable to verify this on any Mexican news sites. Do any of you experts on the topic know whether this article is factual or not? Thanks,

Jim

Rolly

Mar 23, 2012, 1:43 PM

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Re: [jrpierce] More information about the coming INM changes

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It basicly says INM has not announced anything about the new rules.
That is correct.

Rolly Pirate

jrpierce

Mar 23, 2012, 2:03 PM

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Re: [Rolly] More information about the coming INM changes

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Sorry, I should have been more specific. I meant the suggestion that it is likely to be delayed until after the presidential election. I have mostly heard that it was expected to be implemented more quickly than that.

Jim

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Marlene

Mar 23, 2012, 2:22 PM

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It's being delayed for some reason, so that's as logical as any explanation. :-)

Ric Hoffman

Mar 23, 2012, 2:59 PM

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An article was published the first of the year which is no longer online (http://www.thenews.com.mx/index.php/mexico/M02-19240.html)
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MEXICO CITY – The Permanent Commission of Congress urged President Felipe Calderón on Sunday to force the Interior Secretariat (SEGOB) and the National Migration Institute (INM) to take Congress and social organizations into account when drafting the final amendments to the Migration Law.

Julio César Aguirre Méndez, a Democratic Revolutionary Party (PRD) senator, said that the SEGOB and INM should open up dialog with Congress and social organizations involved in migration issues before submitting the final draft to the Federal Commission for Regulatory Reform (COFEMER).

“We would prefer the courtesy of being allowed to review the amendments before they are sent to the COFEMER,” he said. The draft prepared by the SEGOB “does not include mechanisms to facilitate migrants’ journeys (through Mexico) to the United States and includes requirements which most migrants cannot not comply with,” Aguirre Méndez said. According to the Council on Hemispheric Affairs (COHA), about 500,000 people from Central America travel through Mexico to reach the United States annually.
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I would offer a few were offended because they had no input or consideration for the new Ley de Migración and thus no ownership for their particular political party hence the wait to see how the election goes.

(This post was edited by Ric Hoffman on Mar 23, 2012, 3:10 PM)

jrpierce

Mar 23, 2012, 3:23 PM

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Re: [Ric Hoffman] More information about the coming INM changes

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Thanks for the post, Ric. That seems like a plausible scenario.

Jim

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Mar 23, 2012, 10:50 PM

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Re: [Ric Hoffman] More information about the coming INM changes

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You need to remember these laws are not being revised for the particular benefit of first-world expats, or tourists, but to correct abuses against transmigrants, or at least end criticism of the way Central Americans were treated, especially since Mexican mistreatment of undocumented immigrants was being used to harsh measures taken against what the U.S. calls "illegal immigrants."

The political rhetoric has cooled down north of the border, and some of the worst abuses against Central Americans here has either ended or at least is less newsworthy right now, and there's less pressure to change the system again... which does give the politicos more time to work out the fine points.

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Judy in Ags

Mar 24, 2012, 9:50 AM

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Re: [sparks] More information about the coming INM changes

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"The 2-3-4 year option may come up with the new regs but is not offered now."

I'm not going to attempt to fully describe this year's adventure in renewing our "FM3's"--yes, that what they still call them here as well as at the airport in Dallas.

Anyway, when we finally had our new cards in hand, we asked about the new regs--the possibility of the "2-3-4 year option,". The agent did not have a clue what we were talking about. He had never heard anything about it.

I guess we'll know when we know. With each year's renewal, the possibility for renewing for multiple years looks more and more appealing. For one thing, the INM office is now located about 45 minutes from our home, instead of about 15-20.