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skier14

Oct 27, 2011, 4:27 PM

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I have just been informed by an cardiologist in Guadalajara that I need to have coronary angioplasty and a stent inserted. I have been through the Ecocardiograma de Stress proceedure which showed a partial blockage of an artery. My problem is I have no insurance in Mexico and only Medicare Part A. I was informed that the proceedure at a private hospital here will run about $13,000 USD which I don´t have except to add to a credit card balance. I was also informed that I could also get treatment at the Hospital Civil in Guadalajara and that there might be a minimal charge. I also am a card carrying Veterns Hospital patient from the San Diego California VA Hospital. Since this is not due to any service connected incident there will be costs involved. Does anyone have any experience in this type of experience or any GOOD advice. The other option of doing nothing does not sit very well with me.



joaquinx


Oct 27, 2011, 5:48 PM

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I also am a card carrying Veterns Hospital patient from the San Diego California VA Hospital. Since this is not due to any service connected incident there will be costs involved.


Does being a card carrying VA patient mean that you have a service-connected disability? If so, then the operation might be without cost. You really have to check with VA to be sure.
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Sculptari

Oct 28, 2011, 9:03 AM

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David Lord in Puerto Vallarta, or someone in the organization he founded might help.
http://www.banderasnews.com/.../vl-vahealthcare.htm

Also there is another Veteran on this board who went to the military hospital for surgery. The price was considerably lower than the private hospitals, the care by a military trained medical team. There is also Seguros Popular - President Calderone's pet project for universal healthcare in Mexico.
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skier14

Oct 28, 2011, 9:12 AM

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I do not have a service connected disability.


DavidHF

Oct 28, 2011, 10:48 AM

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If you are a VET the Mexican Veterans Hospitals will serve you.


Axixic


Oct 28, 2011, 1:12 PM

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If you are classified as Priority Group 8, the co-pay is still a lot less than what you will be charged in Mexico at a private hospital.

http://www.va.gov/...theligibility/costs/

http://www.va.gov/...ance/CopayGlance.pdf

The financial threshold for (noncompensable) and nonservice-connected veterans. If your income is less than $29, 402 a year for 1 person, you qualify for VA care with a deductible of $1, 132.
http://www.va.gov/...IncomeThresholds.pdf


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skier14

Oct 28, 2011, 5:32 PM

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Priority Group 5


Axixic


Oct 28, 2011, 5:52 PM

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Then you should pay very little for health care. The site states something about paying travel expenses. Maybe you can have your travel expenses covered also.


skier14

Oct 28, 2011, 7:25 PM

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Thanks loads for the info and contact sites. I am waiting for a reply from VA via email. In the meantime I went to the Seguros Popular office at the Hospital Civil this afternoon and was able to see and receive evaluations within 1 hour. They suggested I return Monday morning to talk to a Cardiologist. I was also informed that while I was undergoing the Stress Ecocardiogram this last Tuesday that I suffered a slight heart attack in which my heart stopped for a few seconds. I remember nothing except having a trembleing feeling as my heart was beating rapidly. I´m alive and that is good. Where I receive additional treatment will depend on the next weeks reponses from Seguros Popular and the VA. Everyone here in Guadalajara thinks an angioplasty proceedure with a stent is the best way to go along with Plavix and aspirin before and after angioplasty Thanks again everyone. Will keep you posted.


MikeKG

Nov 3, 2011, 2:51 PM

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Please keep us informed


skier14

Nov 3, 2011, 6:31 PM

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I received a reply from the VA stating that only service connected items were covered by the VA for vets living outside of the USA. I replied by asking if there was any difference if I were to come to San Diego VA Hospital at my expense and that the VA has my address as Modoc, County, California(my brothers place). Still waiting for a reply. In the meantime I went to the hospital civil cardiologist office and was given an appointment for Nov. 17, 2011 and given a perscription for blood work snd an X-ray which requires a small payment. 80 pesos for the 17th appointment and 300 pesos for the blood work and I will have to pay ? for the x-rays to be taken a day or two before the 17th. I am now waiting and taking my Coplavix(Plavix and aspirin combo) once a day. One of the original doctors that I saw at the hospital civil (74 pesos) told me that I could just opt for the medicine as it would eat away the plaque deposit or go for the angioplasty and stent, while still taking the Coplavix. I have been to several websites and nothing has been said about Plavix reducing the anount of plaque build up. So its wait and try not get too excited or worry. Will write more when I know more.


skier14

Nov 17, 2011, 1:52 PM

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Just returned from my cardiologist appointment (7 hours waiting and appointment). Yes I need the angioplasty proceedure with a stent and pronto. Was given a perscription for nitroglycin to have as a standby in case of chest pains. 38,500 pesos. When you get the money come on back. I am still waiting for a reply from the VA Hospital San Diego. If I don´t hear by Monday I will telephone them.


Axixic


Nov 18, 2011, 4:34 AM

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Was that Seguro Popular asking for $38,500 MX or another doctor?


skier14

Nov 18, 2011, 6:24 AM

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I belive it is Seguros Popular as the appointment was at the Hospital Civil in Guadalajara.


Axixic


Nov 18, 2011, 2:45 PM

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I guess $38,500 MX ($2,804.73 USD today) is better than the $13,000 USD you were quoted by a private doctor.

By the time you travel to and from the U.S. and pay your living expenses, the Seguro Popular price might save you some money. Maybe you can work out a payment plan with them. Many Mexicans have payment plans with their doctors. Doesn't hurt to ask.


skier14

Nov 18, 2011, 4:08 PM

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Thanks for the additional info regarding payments. It would be better that getting cash from my credit card, I think.


skier14

Nov 24, 2011, 10:05 AM

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Payment plan not possible with Seguros Popular. I leave with my wife Sat. the 26th for San Diego VA Hospital. Round trip for 2 via Volaris $595 USD plus motel, car rental, meals, and VA co-pay, but I can use my credit card a pay per month. Volaris had an option for changing the flight either going or returning for $6 for each person and each segment of trip.


RickS


Nov 24, 2011, 11:25 AM

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Good luck to you, Herbert.


skyline

Dec 8, 2011, 12:40 PM

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Wow, thanks for sharing your progress getting medical care SOB, gives us all food for thought. For what its worth, your on my prayer list for getting good medical care fast, and a return to good health. I have been there by the way. Good Luck! Skyline


skier14

Dec 23, 2011, 10:29 PM

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MY ANGIOPLASTY-STENT PROCEEDURE ENDED UP BEING A BY-PASS OPERATION. I WAS RELEASED YESTERDAY EVENING AFTER 8 DAYS AT THE VA HOSPITAL SAN DIEGO. I WILL WRITE MORE WHEN I HAVE MORE TIME AND LESS DISCOMFORT.


Camille

Dec 24, 2011, 7:08 PM

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Bless your heart and please keep us informed. At least you got the help you needed when you needed it instead of waiting til el gobierno found you eligible.....
And considering the way Mexican nationals are treated in the US, it's a miracle we can get treatment here at all.


Charles Toney

Dec 27, 2011, 10:09 AM

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I find Camille's response to be misinformed and inflamatory. Having taught in Texas public schools for years, I am aware of many medical resources given to Mexican citizens who are in Texas (often illegally). Many students who call mexico their home have braces on their teeth to improve their smiles at no cost to the family courtesy of the taxpayers. They are provided with free breakfasts and lunches at school courtesy of the taxpayers to improve their health. Students who cannot afford physicals to play sports are given free ones. Local hospital emergency rooms are filled with people calling mexico their home who are seeking medical services which will be paid for by the tax payers.

Having gone through several bouts of cardiac issues, I feel the connection with anyone in a situation where they require medical treatment and have no insurance. Fortunately, I am covered by TRS insurance and my out of pocket loss will be capped at $2000. I have pondered how things will go once I retire and, hopefully, move to Mexico where I want to continue to teach there.


La Isla


Dec 27, 2011, 5:13 PM

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I find Camille's response to be misinformed and inflamatory. Having taught in Texas public schools for years, I am aware of many medical resources given to Mexican citizens who are in Texas (often illegally). Many students who call mexico their home have braces on their teeth to improve their smiles at no cost to the family courtesy of the taxpayers. They are provided with free breakfasts and lunches at school courtesy of the taxpayers to improve their health. Students who cannot afford physicals to play sports are given free ones. Local hospital emergency rooms are filled with people calling mexico their home who are seeking medical services which will be paid for by the tax payers.


You write of these benefits being provided to Mexicans, both children and adults, who are living in the US illegally as being paid for by "the tax payers". Isn't it true that many of these Mexicans work and pay taxes on their wages, just like all other citizens do? Doesn't that make them "tax payers" too?


sioux4noff

Dec 27, 2011, 8:59 PM

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It makes no difference if you work or not, pay taxes or not, you can get those services. Often, but not always, they are available to low income people free of charge, paid for by the general taxpaying public. Whether or not one is illegal to me is not the issue.


La Isla


Dec 27, 2011, 9:08 PM

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It makes no difference if you work or not, pay taxes or not, you can get those services. Often, but not always, they are available to low income people free of charge, paid for by the general taxpaying public. Whether or not one is illegal to me is not the issue.


What, then, is the issue to you?


sioux4noff

Dec 27, 2011, 9:20 PM

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The issue is that in many cases, low income, uninsured people use the hospital emergency room as if it were the family doctor, and often don't pay anything for their care. While others end up losing their homes over medical bills. There has got to be a better way to get folks the medical attention they need.
But, this is a Mexico related forum, and this issue is not a Mexican issue.
But since you asked, that's why.


Axixic


Dec 28, 2011, 1:56 PM

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I don't know what service is paying for braces on teeth. Medicaid stopped paying any dental a long time ago.

When one goes to an emergency room for care and doesn't pay, the cost is passed onto those who can pay, which is what has caused medical costs and insurance to skyrocket. Insurance is paying for those who do not pay. There is no free lunch.

The county hospitals in Texas are funded by property taxes. If an illegal rents, he is paying property taxes in his rent. He is also paying a larger percentage of his income in other taxes, sales tax, fuel tax, utility taxes, etc.

I'm always curious about teachers who do not capitalize correctly. The teacher must not have been an English teacher or it explains why Texas ranks near the bottom in education.

http://www.oddgods.com/articles/2009/f03a


martian95524@yahoo.com

Jan 7, 2012, 2:49 AM

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I was not aware the state of Texas was so generous with foreigners with no cash or insurance. In California no dental service is provided on Medi-Cal, even to state residents. Two million-plus U.S. ex-pats live in Mexico now, and many have expired visas.
They can get a permanent resident visa (used to be an FM-2, now it is called something else) and purchase Mexican National Health Insurance during the January enrollmemnt period, or buy private insurance a couple of years prior to moving down (using a Mexican address to fool the insurance company, so when they move there and terminate their U.S. health policy the coverage is seamless, as the two-year waiting period for pre-existing medical conditions has elapsed.) The coverage is good, although there are some exclusions in both the gov't and private plans, just as there are in plans offered up in the states. The gov't plan is about $300. a year. Private policies vary by company, but are cheaper than in the U.S., even when offered by companies based in the U.S., such as Met Life or Aetna.

The happiest ex-pats living there are the ones who "live in Rome as the Romans do" and do not talk down to Mexicans. We are guests there. To go there as "cultural imperialists" trying to remake Mexico in the U.S. image, with disregard for their traditions and rich cultural heritage, is wrong. If you learn the language and study Mexican culture and traditions you will have greater respect for the country and it's people.

You might discover that after the NAFTA treaty, U.S. companies flooded Mexico with cheap goods, devastating the economy
(particularly the small farmers) and put hundreds of thousands of Mexicans out of work. As there was not enough jobs in the cities, many Mexicans were forced to seek work in the U.S. Few chose to work for the drug cartels, which are funded and armed by the U.S. public.

Once here, most found jobs as pickers at farms until, thanks to "Homeland Security" they were chased out of even those jobs. Yes, they buy phony I.D.s. Those Mexicans also are paying millions every year into social security and medicare money they will never be able to withdraw from the system. This money will prop up both social programs. Current projections which show the programs will default fail to take those factors into account.

I hope I have provided you with some food for thought.


BILL


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Well said Bill.


Axixic


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They can get a permanent resident visa (used to be an FM-2, now it is called something else) and purchase Mexican National Health Insurance during the January enrollmemnt period,
BILL


Are you describing Seguro Popular as the Mexican National Health Insurance?

Any resident of Mexico, legal or illegal, can sign up for Seguro Popular. It's Mexico's Universal Healthcare, and open to everyone, rich, poor, or foreign. The applicant doesn't need a permanent resident visa.

http://www.seguro-popular.gob.mx/


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skier14

Jan 11, 2012, 10:37 AM

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Update on by-pass surgery. Returned to Mexico Friday the 6th of January. VA San Diego did the by-pass(only two arteries were clogged) after the angioplasty and stent proceedure was ruled not the best idea via the wires inserted into both groin arteries. 6 days in intensive care and two more days in a standard ward and I was released to return to a motel to await a follow-up meeting with surgeons on th 4th of Jan. All told I spent 40 days in San Diego and the cost(about $10K USD) was living expenses(travel,food and motel), but at least I was able to use my credit card and pay back over time. I have only received a bill for co-pay medicines from VA. Maybe more later? Wait and see. I am a catagory 5 paitent. The VA has an arrangement with a suite hotel with mini kitchens for paitents for about $70 a night and right on the bus route to hospital. I am returning sometime the end of this month for additional follow-up by cardiac doctors and then we will see what next. I hope they can reduce the number of pilsl I take. I am off pain killers, but still have a lot of discomfort and am not allowed to carry(lift) more than 8 lbs. or drive my car until furthur notice. Blood sugar numbers have been higher than before surgery, but surgeons say the numbers will come back down. I have been a prediabetic for many years and have kept the numers in the 100-125 range. Walking exercise is now my most important activity and I am trying to educate my Mexican family on a healthy heart diet(not going well). I will probably just end up doing my own meals. I wish to thank those that were keeping me in their thoughts. HAPPY NEW YEAR AND FOR ME A NEW LIFE.


esperanza

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Skier14, thank you for keeping everyone on Mexconnect up to date on your experiences. Your sign-off on the last post brought tears to my eyes. God bless you and keep you healthy!

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Axixic


Jan 11, 2012, 11:59 AM

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Great news. Too bad it cost so much.

If you have to go back and stay a month, look for a monthly rate motel that has a kitchen, TV, WiFi, etc. Those are usually cheaper, average anywhere from $15 to $25 a night and there might be a lot of hookers in the area, but nothing you can't handle.

Stay on top of your diet and you will be fine. There is a vegetarian group stating a website on the other board.

Yahoo Group: lakesidevegetarians

Maybe you won't cut out all meats but cutting some will improve your health.


robt65

Jan 19, 2012, 7:53 AM

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Although I am a service connected Vet now, I was not at the time. I have had three major surgeries over several months at the La Jolla VA hospital in San Diego. They are one of the best hospitals in the area. They are a full service teaching hospital being staffed by medical doctors (of all specialties, including a great spinal cord injury care unit) from the University of California at San Diego (La Jolla). I could not say enough of both the surgical doctors as well as the hospital care (VA Staff Personnel). They are one of the best of many VA hospitals in the USA I have had the opportunity of being a patient at for medical care.

I don't think you are going to find too many (if any at all) of those cheap motels, hotels in the La Jolla area. If you do go down to the cafeteria, they used to have a staff bulletin board there. Sometimes a looking for rent sign on that board will bring some great results. I was able to rent a room in a nice area from a research nurse and that included really good support care at no extra cost. She really made sure I stuck with my diet and provide relief when I had questions. I will never forget that U.S Navy Vet Nurse. She was an angel!

Just a word of caution taking Plavix and any of a number of meds such as any of the "prozols" for stomach problems. Evidently they don't mix well. If any of your meds include any of the "prozols" such as Lanzaprozal (sp?) check with your cardiologist re any possible contradictions with the Plavix. they cut me off the Plavix after three or four months as it was not needed any more.

Good luck on your healing process. I had two stents put in at the VA and that was five years ago. They are doing fine. Probably have to have a third put in, in the not too distant future. I will be having that one done in Mexico City by a Mexican Cardiologist paid for by the VA Foreign Medical Program. Depending upon where you are living in México, you can have your med records transferred any time to the nearest VA to you NOB and go there for your checkups as well as any meds. You may have to fight a little for it but they can and will give you four months supply at a time. So three times a year is good for a visit NOB and getting any other things at your friendly Wal Mart, Costco or other NOB store during your time there.

Biggest thing that helped me was dumping any and all salt used in cooking or eating, as well as no more bacon, "crispy" fat from BBQ'ed steaks or turkey / chicken skins to eat any more, but I really don't miss them at all.

Good Luck, I’m sure you feel a thousand percent better already.

robt65

 
 
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