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YucaLandia


Apr 29, 2010, 8:10 AM

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New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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Mexico’s immigration department (National Migration Institute: Instituto Nacional de Migración – INM) has issued changes to immigration rules to simplify and clarify the requirements for immigration to México, effective May 1, 2010. These changes greatly improve the process for DIY (Do It Yourself) folks.


FM2 and FM3 holder requirements basically remain the same, except INM is issuing smart cards to replace the paper booklets, and they will offer on-line registration for both first-time applicants and renewals, eliminating the need for first visits at a Mexican Consulate or INM office. The FMT (Forma Migratoria Turista) is being replaced with the FMM (Forma Migratoria Múltiple).

Applicants for Mexican visas and renewals of visas will be able to apply on-line. The current plan is for applicants to log-on with INM; create a personal account; enter personal data; and . . . 3 days later receive notification (by e-mail?) that their application has been approved or denied.
If INM approves your on-line application, the current plan is for INM to include a page/recibo for the user/applicant to print-out and take to a bank and pay. The approval notification will also include a list of the specific documents you need to bring (& number of copies required). Successful/approved application and payment will then trigger INM to issue an appointment (cita) for you to come in to INM,; submit your documents; and get your new smart-card FM2 or FM3 that same visit.

This is expected to be their routine procedure, but INM agents described that some personal situations/circumstances may require several visits. (some people are just special.)


INM agents also emphasized that the documentation requirements will be reduced. Today (April 29) INM agents at our Merida office were gently discouraging new applicants from applying, instead explaining that if they wait just 2 days, the new systems will be much faster and easier.

Note: Applications currently being processed and those filed before May 1, 2010 will be analyzed and processed based on the old/current policies, practices and procedures = booklets, lot's of paperwork, multiple visits, yada, yada, yada...

more descriptions of INM FMM, FM2, & FM3 requirements at http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...-fmms-fm2s-fm3s-diy/ & http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...ments-for-fm2s-fm3s/


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YucaLandia


May 2, 2010, 7:38 AM

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Re: [YucaLandia] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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As described in http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...-fmms-fm2s-fm3s-diy/:Mexican FMMs, FM2s, FM3s: DIY? article, the National Migration Institute (INM) has issued changes to immigration rules to simplify and clarify the requirements for immigration to México, effective May 1, 2010. Further descriptions about the INM site and new procedures can be found at: http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...plication-procedure/

It's now May 2, 2010, and the INM website for on-line applications is up and running. Here's a link to the first page for this new on-line application process plus pages & descriptions for of policies for tourists and first time visitors to Mexico: http://www.inm.gob.mx/...gratory_facilitation where only the first page and a video are in English.

I'm off to do some translating, but it all looks pretty straightforward, and I'll add more details to our blog as my Yuca-sposa translates things.
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sioux4noff

May 2, 2010, 8:28 AM

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Re: [YucaLandia] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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Thanks Steve. I'd also like to hear about others' experiences as they go through the new process.


Demonio

May 2, 2010, 8:46 AM

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Re: [YucaLandia] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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Well YucaLandia, I've looked at those new forms and procedures till I'm blue in the face and one thing's for sure -- there's NOTHING straight forward about them! Where or how, pray tell, does one apply for an FM3? Those three letters/number are nowhere to be found!

G


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Rolly


May 2, 2010, 2:42 PM

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Re: [Demonio] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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From the new INM website, click on Vivo en México…

On that page, the first question is ¿Qué desea hacer? = What do you want to do? In the first box select
Extender la estancia

In the second box are three choices in elegant government speak:
Turista = FMM
No inmigrante = FM3
Inmigrante = FM2

The help section is only slightly helpful.

Rolly Pirate


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Demonio

May 2, 2010, 3:12 PM

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Re: [Rolly] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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Rolly,

Extender la estancia is -- extend your stay. I'm pretty sure those three categories are to renew your FMM, FM2 and FM3. Why not design a website, intended for ease of use, with common language. Mexican friends, who themselves are having trouble with the site's wording, believe it's to keep attorneys and others, who make a living from leeching off others, in business.

G


"What we've got here is a failure to communicate."


Rolly


May 2, 2010, 5:25 PM

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Re: [Demonio] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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¿Quién Sabe? If these new forms are a mystery to a Spanish speaker, what is the average tourist or expat to do?

It is incomprehensible to me that there is not an English option for these forms.

I am so glad I got my FM2 before this bomb landed.

If anyone is successful in threading this maze, please tell us how it went.

Rolly Pirate


morgaine7


May 2, 2010, 7:13 PM

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Re: [Rolly] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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They do have a video in English that explains how to fill out the new forms.
http://www.inm.gob.mx/...dex.php?page/New_FMM
Maybe they'll run that on flights to major cities.

For a new FM3 where it says "¿Qué desea hacer?" on the online form, I think you'd select "Realizar actividades diferentes a las autorizadas" then (under Especifique) "Cambio de característica migratoria". But few people applying for the first time would figure that out. It's all government-speak.

Kate


MaryPat

May 9, 2010, 12:11 PM

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Re: [morgaine7] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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I just received a phone call from my husband at the cancun airport. We are both fm3 holders and our fm3s expire in august 2010. He was calling because immigration at the airport cancelled his current fm3. He was told that he has to travel to Chetumal to our local INM office tomorrow to start the process for the "cards" as they no longer recognize our fm3 booklets. Has anyone had a similar experience?


sparks


May 9, 2010, 1:08 PM

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Re: [MaryPat] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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Oh boy ... I thought we'd wait till the old one expire. They must want to overload themselves. I hope they don't do that to people leaving that need to check out

Sparks Mexico - Sparks Costalegre


Rolly


May 9, 2010, 1:13 PM

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Re: [MaryPat] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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I got my FM2 two weeks before the new stuff started. I asked if I should return to get the new card. I was told no to wait until renewal time.

Rolly Pirate


YucaLandia


May 10, 2010, 10:48 AM

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Re: [Rolly] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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We've been jumping through INM's new hoops this morning - and here are a few tips from our blog to make things go a little more smoothly with INM's new online application process.
Surviving Yucatan: http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...res-may-10th-update/
INM webpage: http://www.inm.gob.mx/...gratory_facilitation for options in English - and then choose
"New migratory forms for Non-Immigrants and Immigrants. " to go to the forms page you need.

Online Application Notes:
As of today, May 10, 2010:
  • Applications made on Mozilla Firefox browsers are not working well (or at all) - use Internet Explorer.
  • Allow or Enable "Pop-Ups".
  • If the main FM2 and FM3 application also had dependents, you must make a separate on-line application for every dependent - describing the purpose for application and describing the relationship between the applicant/dependent and the main applicant in the comments box at the bottom of the form.
  • Be sure to enter the person's First and Middle Names or initials in the "Nombre(s)" box - EXACTLY as is listed on the person's passport. If you enter only the First Name, when the passport has both First and Middle names, then the application will not go through...
  • Do not include any dashes or spaces in your phone number entry.
  • Check all entered information before saving and then again before "approving".
  • Record the official number that INM issues for each application - when the number is displayed briefly in a pop-up box.
We'll provide more updates on this process as they become available. The new systems seems to be flying along: there were 58 new applications logged during the 15 minutes that we entered information for 3 dependents this morning.
steve
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(This post was edited by YucaLandia on May 10, 2010, 10:54 AM)


esperanza

May 10, 2010, 11:34 AM

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Re: [YucaLandia] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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When applying for an FM-2 in Morelia, INM requires that you provide five photos tamaño infantil, in spite of the specific requirement in the online application instructions that says the photos should be tamaño pasaporte.

Judy will apply for her FM-2 this week and one of us will post back about her experience at the Morelia INM. She's already filled out the online application form (Mozilla Firefox, turned off pop-up blockers, it printed fine).




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YucaLandia


May 10, 2010, 12:07 PM

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Re: [YucaLandia] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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Latest Twists for people able to visit an INM Offfice - in addition to those listed in an earlier post today.

If you are making an application from within Mexico, currently (until things change again) it can help speed things to visit your local INM office. Here are our local Merida INM office steps for an FM2:
  • They currently want an application letter describing what you want, but they have a new twist where they require a precise legal phrase that says that everything you have written is the truth.
  • They want a copy of just your passport's photo page & personal info (not all pages), plus your passport for them to compare w/the foto-copy.
  • They want all of your previous FM2 or FM3 booklets (again no copies).
  • They use your "Pieza" number9s) from your internet application (one number per person/dependent) to pull up your information.
  • They want 3 months of documentation of Financial Support (as before), except that INM has now eliminated the FM2 credit for owning property in Mexico.
  • They want a CURP for the main applicant.
  • They do not need Comprabantes (no CFE or Japay bills needed).
  • With all the previous steps completed, they then issue you an official paper with a NIP (to check status/things online), a NUT (Numero Unico de Tramite), and your Pieza Number.
  • Now, they are again issuing special documents to allow applicants to legally travel outside of Mexico, while their FM2 / FM3 application is being processed.

They then told us to check on-line in one week (5 business days), that they expected to be ready to go on to the next step in the FM2 process. They currently expect the entire FM2 process to take about 1 month.
We'll continue to track updates as the new INM procedures evolve.
http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...plication-procedure/

steve
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Rolly


May 10, 2010, 12:19 PM

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Carol Schmidt has good first-hand information on the renewal procedure on her website here.

Rolly Pirate


Rolly


May 10, 2010, 3:12 PM

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Most of this discussion here is about renewals. What about applications for a first FM3 outside México? The new INM manual seems to indicate that consulates and embassies will no longer issue FM3s, but will allow one to begin the process which will be completed later in México. True? I got an e-mail today from a couple in Canada who say the Calgary consulate tells them nothing has changed and that they can still get their FM3s at the consulate. Comments?

Rolly Pirate


YucaLandia


May 10, 2010, 3:28 PM

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Re: [Rolly] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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The information I presented was for a new FM2 application.
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skier14

May 10, 2010, 4:30 PM

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I received my first FM2 on the 26th of April at the Guadalajara INM office. When I asked about the new card, nobody said anything about next years renewal or anything else except here is your new booklet. Photos front and side were 4cmX 4cm. Whoever typed up the booklet made several error in copying my application as far as physical description, but I figure I´ll wait until renewal time to bring it up. Also I am sure that somewhere on the web there will be a example of the citizenship exam, like I found for the IMSS questioneer.


Linda in Morelia

May 12, 2010, 3:18 PM

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Re: [MaryPat] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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This is disconcerting, to say the least. Has anyone flown out of Mexico since May 1st with their current FM-3 that has not yet been converted to the new form?


chinagringo


May 12, 2010, 3:27 PM

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Re: [Linda in Morelia] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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The following quote is from a posting made Sunday on this forum:

"I just received a phone call from my husband at the cancun airport. We are both fm3 holders and our fm3s expire in august 2010. He was calling because immigration at the airport cancelled his current fm3. He was told that he has to travel to Chetumal to our local INM office tomorrow to start the process for the "cards" as they no longer recognize our fm3 booklets. Has anyone had a similar experience?"

By Monday morning, the post had disappeared, so I have a feeling that the "wife" misunderstood what her husband had told her on the phone?
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



sioux4noff

May 12, 2010, 11:44 PM

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A friend of ours left Mexico in April and returned a few days ago. He said other than longer, slower lines than usual, it was no problem returning with his FM3.


MaryPat

May 13, 2010, 5:54 AM

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My Post still appears in this thread and yes my husband's FM3 (non-inmigrante-rentista-retirado) was cancelled. After spending the next day at INM in our capital city of Chetumal the INM office there said that the INM people at the airport in Cancun had acted incorrectly. They advised him that when he leaves the country in 2 weeks to follow the procedures that we have always used in the past. Apparently when INM saw his FM3 on arrival, they gave him a new immigration form to fill out that started the whole episode ending with a cancelled FM3. INM in Chetumal assured him that our old FM3s are valid until the date they expire and the episode was another example of differing INM officials interpreting one issue many different ways.


chinagringo


May 13, 2010, 6:10 AM

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Sorry MaryPat - I guess in my haste, I missed your original post.
Regards,
Neil
Albuquerque, NM



geri

May 14, 2010, 7:53 AM

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I returned a couple days ago from the States to Oaxaca on FM3 by air. EVERYONE has to fill out a form and it's the same one for tourists (FMM) and Fm3 & FM 2 holders. The airline stewardess was new to this procedure so we got our instructions/info from the form. FM3 holders get the righthand side of the form back, to be presented when they leave the country. Or, I guess, if you were doing it the other way, to be presented upon return into Mexico. But because of the new system I had to fill out the forms, even though I had a stamped FM-3 exit form, which usually is all I need for re-entry.

The check-in people at Oaxaca airport are on a learning curve (understandably) and the usually fast/efficient process was quite slow.


sioux4noff

May 15, 2010, 8:51 AM

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Re: [geri] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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Geri, that matches the experience of a friend who recently returned to the Puerto Vallarta airport. He said the lines were slow, but then again there were 5 planes in at about the same time.


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esperanza

May 15, 2010, 9:02 AM

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Re: [geri] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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If you go over to the Living, Working, Retiring Forum, I posted a thread called Photos of new INM form FMM--you can take a look at the front and the back of the form and see how it works.




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Ric Hoffman


May 16, 2010, 1:00 PM

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New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs (Seguimiento de trámite)

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After you have submitted your trámite to INM you will receive a unique number identification (NUT) and password so you can track the progress of your request. You can track it here: http://tinyurl.com/Tramite-Status

(long url: http://setram.inami.gob.mx:8080/...imiento-tramite.html )


Ustlach


May 17, 2010, 6:45 PM

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Re: [Rolly] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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I would be willing to tell you my recent experiences, although I would not yet describe them as successful.

I went to my local INM office to get the first renewal of my FM2 visa on or around 20 April 2010. I waited almost two and a half hours to get the current requirements and payment form, only to be told I ought to wait until after 1 May 2010, when I would be able to do everything online.

I pressed for better information and was told after 1 May 2010 I could go to a specific website, set up an account, and get an appointment to go into the office and complete the process. None of that is true.

So when I got back from the USA on May 10th, my partner (a Mexican) got online at the website I was given. We got nowhere. So next day he called the local INM office (a minor miracle, they answered the phone) and talked him through what to do. And told him "all" the requirements, which did not include bank statements nor proof of residence, which had always been required before. I had bank statements ready to go and a copy of my water bill, which they tend to prefer over my property tax statement and payment receipt, so I took them with me next day.

Next day, we did not have a long wait and the INM lady who helped us, the same one who registered my FM3 when I came to Mexico, and helped me through one renewal of the FM3 and a conversion to FM2. She had always been so pleasant and seemingly competent and efficient, but was now grumpy and morose and having a helluva time operating the ancient Dell laptop she had on the front desk. I think the internet connection cable kept popping out and she would lose control of the whole process and have to get it plugged in again and start over. I don't think she was comfortable with what she was doing and it was sad to watch as she had always been the picture of efficiency in the past.

Of course she asked for all the same stuff that they always ask for, plus new fotos...specifically "infantil" size, 2 of the right profile, 3 from the front. No glasses. I had those as a result of the phone call we made the day before.

She finally got it all stamped and stapled and assembled into a file folder and gave me a "comprobante de registro de solicitud" that has my case number and a password to use online to check the status of the application. She told us the visa would be ready in two days, last Friday. Today I got online to the website I was given, used the case number and password and there is a computer file with entries, indicating they had received a payment, had received the application, had entered the application, had registered the application. But that is all.

Maybe...MAYBE in the end, later, sometime down the road, all of this will prove easier than the old way. I am pretty sure of it. And the new little card, to carry in my wallet, will be an improvement. I wonder about checking in with INM when I leave and go to the USA and come back. I suspect they will swipe the new card and register, electronically, my departure, and then the reverse of that to record my re-entry. I hope that is how it goes.

It seems to me that the process is just as bureacratic, inefficient, and time-consuming as ever. Same information to assemble. Payment at a bank, requiring a special form that you have to go into the INM office to get and wait forever to get it, and get the current requirements, just in case something has changed. At least two additional visits to the INM office, to handover the documents and watch them stamp the holy begeezus out of everything, then another visit later to pick up the visa. If all goes well, with no glitches like them losing the payment receipt, like they did during my FM3 to FM2 conversion. Make personal copies of EVERYTHING and try to get them stamped. They love to stamp things.

I fail to see how the process is much improved and it sure has made the ladies there unhappy. For me, it is all about the same. And I don't mind doing it. But there is no appointment and no processing of the application online, as far as I am concerned. It is just like it used to be, with the exception that I will probably get a cute little card instead of a ratty-looking booklet as my visa and they have work to do via an ancient laptop on their front desk. I guess that is the online part.


geri

May 18, 2010, 6:50 AM

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Re: [Ustlach] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs

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Ustlach: Thanks for this personal, first-hand account. From my own experience, I agree, that the "Mexican officials" are a bit nervous, awkward (understandably) and hence edgy with the new procedures, but hopefully all will be ironed out. When I posted my personal experience with re-entry on an FM-3 (above), it illicited a curt response from Moderator to go to a website where the form appears. I hope Mexconnect continues to allow personal experiences dialogues to be posted because it seems as if there are various ways of handling the new procedures and if we read about them, we'll be more prepared when actually faced with filling out the forms, which as everyone knows, are available online, but in reality things don't always work out exactly as officially planned/published.


Rolly


May 18, 2010, 7:12 AM

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Geni, I don't think that the response you referred to was curt. It simple pointed to another thread that had a picture of the form.

On your second point: personal experiences are more than welcome, they are begged for.

Rolly Pirate


prmjcm


May 19, 2010, 9:23 AM

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Ustlach, were the photos to be in color or black and white.


Ustlach


May 19, 2010, 9:25 AM

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Forgot to mentiuon that, COLOR.


Manuel Dexterity

May 19, 2010, 9:53 AM

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Geni, I don't think that the response you referred to was curt. It simple pointed to another thread that had a picture of the form.

On your second point: personal experiences are more than welcome, they are begged for.


Curt? Of course.

And none apparently have the validity of a particular mod's OPINION.

And that is not only the case on this thread but on many others.


careyeroslib

May 19, 2010, 5:10 PM

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I'm new here but I didn't find the referral to the picture of the new FMM on another thread curt. To the point, not curt--and helpful (to have a picture of the actual form).

We're one of those who left under the old system and will return under the new system. It is great to know what the new form will look like. If someone happens to visit this sub-forum, but not the other, it's great to be redirected.


Rolly


May 19, 2010, 5:48 PM

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Look here and also here.

Rolly Pirate


YucaLandia


May 22, 2010, 7:11 AM

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Re: [Ric Hoffman] New INM Procedures for FM2s, FM3s, & FMMs (Seguimiento de trámite)

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Update on the new / mixed INM Procedures for FM2s & FM3s:

Our local guinea pig for post-April 30, 2010 changing from an FM3 rentista to FM2 seems to have had a breakthrough. After submitting separate applications online for himself, wife, and 2 teens, he submitted a letter requesting the FM2 to FM3 change using a letter previously written by Merida INM personnel in April. The INM personnel initially had him edit their April version by adding one new specific phrase (certifying that everything he claimed was the truth). They then rejected that letter, and required him to write a separate letter for his wife.

The letter-dance has continued in various forms, 8 different letters along the way, with the final version being a letter for him and separate letters for each of his 2 kids and one from his wife, including yet more additional specific INM language required. I hesitate to publish the final forms until INM finishes approving his application, because they have changed requirements 3 times in 2 weeks. I'll post versions of the final letters on our blog when INM gives final approval.

The good news? INM has made an appointment for all of them to come into the office in 1 week, to sign final forms, and get their cards.

This seems like a breakthrough, since applications for new FM2s and FM3 renewals had been taking 2 months to process this spring at our office, which would mean that he seems ready to have the entire process completed in just 3 weeks = a faster process? As an optimist, I hope that the processing times will become even shorter, and more efficient with less confusion, as the INM personnel get fully trained on the new procedures and they settle into a consistent set of new requirements.

Our friend's only apparent remaining hurdle is shifting his Texas-plated vehicle from his FM3 over to his FM2. The last gringa we know who did this here in March found it painless and free. I'll post more details as we get them.
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skier14

May 22, 2010, 4:04 PM

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Whats with the thing about shifting you NOB plated vehicle from a FM3 to a FM2?


johanson


May 22, 2010, 4:38 PM

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Me neither. Brought one in ten years ago and have gone through several FM 2 &/or 3s since then (I had to go back to an FM 3 since I was out of Mexico too many days per year to meet the FM 2 requirements


sioux4noff

May 23, 2010, 7:38 AM

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Thanks for the update YucaLandia. We, too, will be going from an FM3 to an FM2 later this year.
Interesting to hear they got an appointment, so far no one has reported getting an appointment at the local office here in Bucerias.


careyeroslib

May 24, 2010, 12:50 PM

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A question for anyone who has renewed an FM2 since May 1st (or knows for sure) regarding the online application.

They ask for your ""documento de identificacion". One can choose "pasaporte" or "forma migratoria". Do they want our passport (eg., Canadian, American) info, or our FM2 info in that section?

Thanks.


careyeroslib

May 24, 2010, 3:46 PM

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I think I have the answer to my previous question. According to someone who renewed in the Vallarta area, the document they want to know about on the online form is the passport, not your FM2 info.


mexbound

May 25, 2010, 9:36 AM

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So my wife and I were concerned when we heard that Mexican Consulates (in the US) would no longer be issuing new FM3s. We are in the process of moving to Mexico from Seattle. We were thinking we would have to come down to Mexico on an FMM and then convert to an FM3. This would require our household goods to sit at the border until we got our FM3s. Well I'm happy to say we are now in possession of our new FM3s issued by the Mexican Consulate in Seattle. We got the old style green books and not the new "card". We went down at 10:00 in the morning with all of our paperwork, and by 11:30 we were thru the process. We were told our FM3s would be ready at 1:30 that afternoon.


Marlene


May 25, 2010, 11:19 AM

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Don't be surprised, if when you go to INM in Mexico to register it, that they exchange it. (Basically, you will be required to repeat the process when you register.)


billkath

May 31, 2010, 10:20 AM

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What is CURP? I am filling out my husband's form. Do I need to put anything in the comments section?
Thanks!


billkath

May 31, 2010, 10:38 AM

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OK - I found out what CURP is. Do we have to have one before we can move forward? We are retired.


Rolly


May 31, 2010, 10:45 AM

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The CURP in optional. Notice that there is no * next to that block indicating that it is optional.

Rolly Pirate


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May 31, 2010, 11:18 AM

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Thank you. I just submitted. It was way easy. On that note, I hope I did it right. I received a 'tracking' number. So do I just wait a few days for acceptance then gather my documents and go to INM? Maybe that's the hard part?


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May 31, 2010, 1:31 PM

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My understanding is that once you've submitted the application via the website, you go to your closest IMN office and submit the necessary documentation, photos, etc. They use the # to pull your application from the system. Then you can use the "tracking number" via their website to see when your visa is ready to be picked up, assuming all goes well. (I've only read this....no personal experience yet.)

What I do know is this: A woman who was renewing her FM2 in Guadalajara received her visa three days after submitting the paperwork. So it sounds like things are working pretty well there.


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La Isla


May 31, 2010, 2:22 PM

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What I do know is this: A woman who was renewing her FM2 in Guadalajara received her visa three days after submitting the paperwork. So it sounds like things are working pretty well there.


In Mexico City under the old system, once we've submitted our documents and paid the required fees, FM3 and FM2 prórrogas have always been ready the next day! I hope it doesn't take longer with the new system ( : !


billkath

May 31, 2010, 2:40 PM

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I thought they sent you a response with the paperwork needed. It did give me a pop up stating I did not have adobe, which I do. However, I was not hooked up to a printer at the time. I am not sure if at that time is when the list of documents needed would have printed? I am pretty sure I have everything I need, but it would be nice to be sure.


esperanza

May 31, 2010, 3:08 PM

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In order to print your documents, you need to turn off any pop-up blockers that you have.

Just for the record, my partner has not yet received her FM-2, more than two weeks after all her documents were accepted in the Morelia INM office. They called her the day she was to have received it and said there would be a delay and they would call her when it was ready. She's still waiting to hear from them.




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morgaine7


May 31, 2010, 3:25 PM

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It took me five weeks or more to get my original FM2 under the old system. My application file was approved (presumably by the regional delgado) within a week, at which point they had me go to the bank and pay the fee. But each time I checked afterwards, they were still waiting for something from Mexico City. It did eventually arrive, so please tell her not to despair!

Kate


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YucaLandia


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Here's the sequence of messages I think your friend can hope to see on-line:
10/05/2010 - El trámite ha sido registrado - Delegación Regional en Yucatán
11/05/2010 - El trámite ha sido clasificado - Delegación Regional en Yucatán
10/05/2010 - El tramite ha sido asignado - Delegación Regional en Yucatán
19/05/2010 - Oficio en ventanilla - Delegación Regional en Yucatán
19/05/2010 - Notificado en ventanilla - Delegación Regional en Yucatán
19/05/2010 - Registro de alcance - Delegación Regional en Yucatán
20/05/2010 - Notificación en ventanilla - Delegación Regional en Yucatán
31/05/2010 - Un pago ha sido registrado - Delegación Regional en Yucatán
31/05/2010 - Un pago ha sido registrado - Delegación Regional en Yucatán

21 days from start to finish for getting new first-time FM2s as cards from INM, for 2 adults and their 2 kids.
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esperanza

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She's got all the online messages. What she doesn't have is her FM-2. They say the paperwork is still stalled.




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Jun 1, 2010, 10:15 PM

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She's got all the online messages. What she doesn't have is her FM-2. They say the paperwork is still stalled.

They probably mis-filed it somewhere and are still looking for it. There was a whole new staff working there than who I have seen in the past. One of them seemed rather confused about things. I did see the lady who had assisted me very well in past years pass through the front office a couple times. She probably has enough seniority by now she doesn't have to deal with the public any more.


YucaLandia


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Hello All,
We've updated our blog with the latest requirements from our Merida INM office for FM2 and FM3 applications and we've added copies of the letters that our INM office dictated for 2 parents with 2 kids to change from FM3's to FM2's (including their required language certifying that the submitted information is true): http://yucalandia.wordpress.com/...res-june-2nd-update/

This process took 22 days from start-to-finish, which seems like progress. Each FM2 cost $2800 pesos per person plus a one for charge for $466 pesos for registering each person with INM Distrito Federal.
steve
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esperanza

Jun 4, 2010, 10:40 AM

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She called INM on Wednesday. They told her that her FM-2 had been ready since May 21st, why hadn't she been in to pick it up? She said they had called her on the 20th and told her it was hung up somewhere and they would call her when it was ready. They told her they had no record of any of that.

*sigh*

She went to INM on Thursday to pick it up. While she was getting it, the TV in the office was on for fútbol and Mexico scored a goal in the game against Italy. Everybody in the office shouted and cheered. She thought they were cheering for her, getting the FM-2.

LOL.

Yay, she got it.




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