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Kevin K

Feb 2, 2010, 10:13 AM

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what happened to the dry season?

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Torrential rain at Lake Chapala and in Guad with no end in sight. Have only been here through a few winters but never seen anything like this, and I'm unable to find any reliable forecasts or info. Would appreciate any links that might shed light.
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stevebrtx

Feb 2, 2010, 10:31 AM

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Only mother nature knows what happens next, but we've already exceeded the average amount that falls from Jan to June.
http://chapalaweather.net/
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Peter


Feb 2, 2010, 10:56 AM

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what happened to the dry season?
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It rained.


Gringal

Feb 2, 2010, 10:58 AM

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I understand Punxatawny Phil predicts 6 more weeks of winter.

Think of this when you're sweating in May and June.


lostinmex

Feb 2, 2010, 12:13 PM

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It's a Republican plot directed by George Bush.


stevebrtx

Feb 2, 2010, 12:38 PM

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I read somewhere Phil texted in his message.
http://www.chapalaweather.net


Peter


Feb 2, 2010, 2:53 PM

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It's a Republican plot directed by George Bush.

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Junior or senior?

I guess this season is making up for last summer´s rainy season when it was dry in June, July, and most of August.

Maybe Al Gore is right.


esperanza

Feb 2, 2010, 3:30 PM

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It's Frente Frío #28--cold front #28, a stationary front that has plopped itself over most of Mexico.

Here's the weather forecast for the next week for Guadalajara:
http://www.wunderground.com/...amp;wuSelect=WEATHER.

Weather Underground is usually pretty reliable as a prognosticator.

According to the news, this has been the weirdest, coldest Mexican winter in 140 years. I wonder who was keeping track in 1870?

*sigh* It's all Al Gore's fault.

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Manuel Dexterity

Feb 2, 2010, 3:36 PM

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According to the news, this has been the weirdest, coldest Mexican winter in 140 years. I wonder who was keeping track in 1870?


Weren't you living here then?


Rolly


Feb 2, 2010, 3:36 PM

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I wonder who was keeping track in 1870?

I was. I had my little Cub Scout weather station set up on the roof of the carriage shed.

Rolly Pirate


esperanza

Feb 2, 2010, 3:48 PM

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According to the news, this has been the weirdest, coldest Mexican winter in 140 years. I wonder who was keeping track in 1870?

Weren't you living here then?

Yes, but I was busy inventing the alphabet.

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sparks


Feb 2, 2010, 4:12 PM

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I understand Punxatawny Phil predicts 6 more weeks of winter.

That's for the east coast of the US I assume. Chapala weather is just like Seattle

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Manuel Dexterity

Feb 2, 2010, 4:17 PM

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Yes, but I was busy inventing the alphabet.


You weren't too busy hugging Porfirio's wife?


esperanza

Feb 2, 2010, 4:22 PM

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Yes, but I was busy inventing the alphabet.

You weren't too busy hugging Porfirio's wife?

That too. But of course he wasn't president yet.

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(This post was edited by esperanza on Feb 2, 2010, 4:23 PM)


Manuel Dexterity

Feb 2, 2010, 4:31 PM

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Yes, but I was busy inventing the alphabet.

You weren't too busy hugging Porfirio's wife?

That too. But of course he wasn't president yet.


Of course. He was just seeking your counsel on the Juarez situation.


Gringal

Feb 2, 2010, 4:34 PM

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I've dragged my rockin' chair and lamp in next to the fire. Wearing sweatpants, undershirt, industrial strength robe from back up NOB (where it gets cold?), sheepskin slippers and have a good book. Reminds me of "home" NOB.
It's gonna be another "three dog night".

I think Mother Nature just likes to reassert her position as BOSS LADY once in a while. Okay by me.


tashby


Feb 2, 2010, 5:15 PM

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Okay by me.


¡Yo tambien! (Is that Spanish? Almost Spanish?) I'm loving this little rain. The miserable dry and dusty will be here soon enough, and last more than long enough.

It also gives me a jump on the leaks in the roof over the terraza before the rainy season begins. Last year there was only one leak of any magnetitude, so we had a fellow come re-adjust the tejas. Now there appear to be about ten leaks. Progress!


Zardoz

Feb 3, 2010, 5:42 AM

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Okay by me.


¡Yo tambien! (Is that Spanish? Almost Spanish?) I'm loving this little rain. The miserable dry and dusty will be here soon enough, and last more than long enough.

It also gives me a jump on the leaks in the roof over the terraza before the rainy season begins. Last year there was only one leak of any magnetitude, so we had a fellow come re-adjust the tejas. Now there appear to be about ten leaks. Progress!


You are not along. I have a big piiece of clear plastic over the giant plate glass skylights to stop the leaks otherwise I
have to leave a towel on the floor. Since it is only one leak I am afraid to touch it less there be ten leaks like you have.
Z


stevebrtx

Feb 3, 2010, 7:41 AM

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There's nothing like a few consecutive days of rain to bring out new cracks. However it's nice not to worry much, in TX I feared wet insulation or studs in the walls, spots on the ceiling etc., here it's "don't worry, be happy", just throw down another towel.
http://www.chapalaweather.net


Hound Dog

Feb 3, 2010, 8:55 AM

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Esperanza and Manuel:

Thanks for the morning laugh. Well executed battles of accomplished wits are rare indeed on expat forums. Keep it up.

Just to make your day, here in San Cristobal de Las Casas in the Jovel Valley at 7,000 feet the weather is splendid with crystal blue skies and temperatures expected today in the low 80s Fahrenheit. Anybody want to purchase a (soggy, damp, cold) house in Ajijic in Mexico´s midwest?


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Gringal

Feb 3, 2010, 9:15 AM

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Here in the soggy midwest of lakeside, the Chili Cookoff is expected to be cancelled in favor of the Ark-building project.
This will be finalized as soon as a Mexican contractor is found who can define "a cubit".

Go ahead and gloat in the sunshine, Dawg. Your time will come. heh heh.


jsandrock

Feb 3, 2010, 11:30 AM

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This HAS to be doing something wonderful for the lake and the hills, no??? Has anyone taken any measurements of the undoubtedly improved lake level?

However I am freezing!


stevebrtx

Feb 3, 2010, 12:35 PM

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Lake levels and links are all at www.chapalaweather.net, updated regularly.
http://www.chapalaweather.net

(This post was edited by Rolly on Feb 3, 2010, 12:46 PM)


Rolly


Feb 3, 2010, 12:50 PM

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Steve has a wonderful weather station for the Lake area. I wish there was one in my area.

Rolly Pirate


stevebrtx

Feb 3, 2010, 12:56 PM

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We increased the accuracy from .04" to .01" last Fall not expecting to test it until June - oops. So far the new UV sensor hasn't got much of a workout and the webcam needs a hood, but then what else is there to do but fiddle.
http://www.chapalaweather.net


bournemouth

Feb 3, 2010, 1:22 PM

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The intriguing thing about Conagua's lake measurements, is that they have it dropping by 2 centimeters over the last few days, while it has been pouring with rain.


jsandrock

Feb 3, 2010, 1:38 PM

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¡Mil gracias!

I just put the site on my desktop so I can click whenever I want now and see the lake level! And everything else!
Very cool! I'm sort of a weather junkie so this is great.


stevebrtx

Feb 3, 2010, 1:40 PM

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Recently we were dropping almost .1M a day, that stopped about 4 days ago. It takes time for things to drain down, but in reality we've only had 4" recently, in TX I've seen 15-30" rains all in a very short time and that definitely brings the lake levels up.

Travis is 50 miles long, but narrower than Chapala, back in the 50's it was down over 50' and rains from a Gulf hurricane brought the lake up 50' in 24 hours.
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stevebrtx

Feb 3, 2010, 1:55 PM

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There are a couple of "sub" sites by Wunderground, they take my local info and blend it with Guad forecasting.
http://www.wunderground.com/...ry.asp?ID=IJALISCO25
http://www.wunderground.com/...amp;wuSelect=WEATHER

There are also some weather forums with guys all over the world providing weather info.
http://www.chapalaweather.net

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tashby


Feb 4, 2010, 10:19 AM

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I declare the rains OVER!!! The sun has broken through!!!

(I confess. My previous enthusiasm for this wave of rain diminished significantly on day four when I discovered all our remaining firewood was soaked....)


esperanza

Feb 4, 2010, 3:16 PM

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Yes, but I was busy inventing the alphabet.

You weren't too busy hugging Porfirio's wife?

That too. But of course he wasn't president yet.


Of course. He was just seeking your counsel on the Juarez situation.

Benito, you mean.

<I would have riposted sooner but our electricity has been kaput for two days. Reminded me of the old days under Porfirio--or perhaps under...never mind.>

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Hound Dog

Feb 4, 2010, 4:21 PM

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Dawg is pleased to see the love fest between Espernza and Manuel continues apace but this is about something else.

LETTER FROM NORTHERN GUATEMALA (AKA CHIAPAS)
My darlin´wife just called me from Mexico City where she had been planning to paint the town without The Dawg to tell me that it has been raining absolute buckets in the city which has put something of a crimp in her plans but she is persevering which is what Dawg would expect of her and I know she´ll make the most of this seemingly unprecedented situation and I say unprecedented with some backing. According to the Mexican version of Yahoo News this afternoon under the headline, RAIN AND WIND LASH THE COUNTRY, they report that the states most affected by this strange weather are (in this order) Michoacan, Guerrero and the State of Mexico and that DF has broken the all-time record for accumulated rainfall in February since recordkeeping began. Am I reading this right? The all time record for February has been broken by February 4th?

Once again we here in the Chiapas Highlands have been slighted - this time by none other than Tlaloc himself. The weather here could not be nicer. Warm, breezy and dry with only occasional passing clouds. The Rodney Dangerfield of states gets no respect. The history books will report this phenomenal rainy dry season and here I sit in my patio typing away at 7,000 feet in the warmth of February. There is no justice.


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Camille

Feb 4, 2010, 8:53 PM

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None indeed..... Jalisco and Nayarit have had an inundation too. Don't know the PV total, but here 25 miles north we've had three days of rain totalling right at five inches. Greenest winter jungle I've ever seen....


Papirex


Feb 4, 2010, 10:29 PM

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Well Bob, I certainly hope and expect that Bridgette is OK in México. As you know, my wife and her mother are both originally from México City. They have both been watching local channel 3 on TV here for the last two days. Channel 3 repeats the live news on channel 13 in México City. There has been almost non-stop coverage of the severe flooding in many parts of the city and surrounding areas with water from one to three feet deep in many of the streets, flooded homes and businesses, etc.


They haven't shown any flooding in the downtown or hotel areas, but the news videos were kind of horrifying, showing ruined and flooded homes with wet people on the flooded streets with no place to go. Every once in a while one of my ladies would exclaim, “Tia so and so lives in that colonia, or, Tio so and so used to live in that town before he died.” It is all hometown to them, which made it even harder and obligatory for them to watch it. It was all unpleasant for me to see too.


Yesterday, Wednesday, my wife had to take her mother to the social security hospital in México. She told me that many of the streets were flooded when she drove home in the afternoon, and four lane boulevards only had two lanes passable, but many drivers were ignorantly speeding past her in the flooded lanes.


On the news last night, it was reported that on some of the elevated portions of the streets, some of the outer lanes had collapsed and some drivers drove right off the roads and into deep water. Bad news anytime you do that.


She also said that many trees had fallen onto some of the streets partially blocking them in the city, and on the cuota returning to Cuernavaca, it was raining so hard that the windshield wipers were not keeping the windshield clear enough to see clearly, and some trees had also fallen on the highway, partially blocking it too. Slow going in this strange weather, better slow and safe than sorry.


I lucked out yesterday, I got to stay home and go to the dentist for fun in the afternoon. To celebrate their safe return and my survival, I took them out to dinner last night.


Temps here in Cuernavaca have returned to near normal, it is not really warm yet, but not cold anymore either. It has been steadily raining here for the past couple of days, not a downpour, but steady. I think it might be illegal for it to rain in the daytime here. If God doesn't pay a mordida, they will probably prosecute Him for bringing us this rain in daylight.


Rex
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Hound Dog

Feb 5, 2010, 7:52 AM

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What a shame, Rex. So often we forget that what to most of us is simply an inconvenience hurts so many.

At least Brigitte planned her trip to the city well. Yesterday during the deluge she headed for the Museo de Templo Mayor which she found most impressive promising to take me there when we next visit the city. Today she is heading with her Canadian guests to Teotihuacan and reports that the rain has ceased and the skies crystal clear after the rains. The ruins and volcanoes should be spectacular today if her luck holds up. Some good comes from bad since, as you know, one must see this wonderful environment after a rainstorm to realize how extrordinarily beautiful the Valley of Mexico and its environs can be.


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Papirex


Feb 5, 2010, 10:10 AM

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It's quite a co-incidence that you mentioned The Templo Mayor. I can remember when it was first rediscovered and the only time I saw it was when the excavations to examine it were first started. About the only thing visible then were a few walls. I have been intending to visit it again but there are so many great dinner houses in México that it has so far been impossible for me to get there despite my best intentions.


I must admit that I am a little bit jaded when it comes to ancient ruins in México. They are always interesting, especially for me, knowing that there were no modern tools made of metal, and no beasts of burden available when they were built. They were all built by hand. Human hands. They are always interesting, but I have seen so many of them that I won't go out of my way to see any more of them. They seem to be everywhere down here.


There are a couple of pyramid complexes here in Morelos. One of them is right here in the city of Cuernavaca (Teopanzolco), and another (Xochicalco) is about 20 miles south of town. Every time we tried to visit Teopanzolco, we were given some excuse as to why it was closed to visitors that day, so we finally gave up and have never really visited it. We can see most of it as we drive past it on the street though.


We have visited Xochicalco and it is fascinating. It was one of the most important cities in ancient times. It has a primitive celestial observatory, and all of the leading men of science from all of the areas of meso America had a meeting there some centuries ago to correct what is now called the Aztec calendar, it had become inaccurate by six days, the Aztec calendar is now more accurate than the Gregorian calendar that is in general use today.


It is cool again here today. Whenever it is cloudy or raining during the day, our house is a little cooler the next day. It is usually 1º to 4º C. warmer upstairs but not after a cloudy day. It was 15º C. (59º F.) upstairs, the same as the outside temperature, and only 16º C. (60.8º F.) downstairs when I got up this morning. I am running 2 heaters and it is now 19.5º C. (67.1º F.) inside downstairs and 17.9º C (64.22º F.) upstairs. It is warming up inside and outside. By tonight, it will probably be about 21º C. to 22º C. inside. It´s not cold, but it is still sweater time in the house here.


Every year I am happy that we live in the central highlands, and not the western highlands of Jalisco where it gets really cold almost every winter, and really hot in the spring. They don´t call this ¨The City of Eternal Spring¨ for nothing. This is one of those unusual years for weather for all of us. I am finally going to get our dogs their winter haircuts tomorrow, it has been too cold for them to have short hair so far this winter. Maybe I will get one too.


Rex
"The supreme happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved" - Victor Hugo


cookj5

Feb 5, 2010, 2:36 PM

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For a satellite picture of Baja and Western Mexico (including Jalisco) check: http://eebmike.com/ By checking how fast the weather patterns seemed to be moving, I was able to accurately predict that the skies over Lake Chapala would clear by mid-day Thursday, much to my wife's amazement. Too bad I didn't make any bets!


sanjuan

Feb 7, 2010, 7:11 AM

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The 4 days of rain brought the lake up 2 cm.

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This HAS to be doing something wonderful for the lake and the hills, no??? Has anyone taken any measurements of the undoubtedly improved lake level?

However I am freezing!



Georgia


Feb 12, 2010, 11:34 AM

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You know, HD, that if you keep posting messages like that while we are all shivering and soaking, you will get banned again. Watch your language!!! Warm and sunny, indeed. Really. That is just plain mean.


BILLBOGEY

Feb 12, 2010, 6:22 PM

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If it makes you folks feel better, it has been a dreary wet winter where I am in St. Louis MO. We have missed the big snow storms so far but still snow on the ground with 2 to 4 inches expected Sunday. The tv news reported that today there is snow on the ground in 49 states, only Hawaii missed it. I plan to visit Lake Chapala in early March to see what it is like so I hope your weather gets back to normal. Bill
 
 
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