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Georgia


Apr 20, 2009, 12:04 PM

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So, here's a question: assuming your ethnicity is not Hispanic, what do you all think are ways to "look like a Mexican" when you dress? I'm particularly addressing my inquiry to city dressing, not country dressing.

Some areas for the ladies to consider: hair cut, color, makeup, shoes, purses, clothing, jewelry and certain discreet cultural factors.
For the gentlemen: see above list; skip the makeup.

There are times people are not sure what I am. My ethnic background is European, including Spain, but that's not what has them wondering as one young man once asked me, "Are you from here or from there?"



Anonimo

Apr 20, 2009, 12:18 PM

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I just don't concern myself with this. I am what I am.

Saludos,
Anonimo


Georgia


Apr 20, 2009, 12:37 PM

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Well, I didn't mean this as a concern, but sort of as a fun observation of the differences in choices. Think of the typical stereotype of the American tourist and work from there! A friend of ours, a Mexican, returned from the US and met us in cargo shorts, a Hawaiian shirt and untied jogging shoes .... we teased him unmercifully that he had turned into a gringo. It was a hoot!


Brigitte Ordoquy

Apr 20, 2009, 12:59 PM

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esperanza

Apr 20, 2009, 1:00 PM

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Some areas for the ladies to consider: hair cut, color, makeup, shoes, purses, clothing, jewelry and certain discreet cultural factors.
For the gentlemen: see above list; skip the makeup.

And maybe the purse, although the 'man bag' is quite popular in such cities as Mexico City, Guadalajara and Morelia--as is the morral.




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RickS


Apr 20, 2009, 1:21 PM

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OK, Dawg, what I'm trying to figure out is how this story fit into Georgia's topic? Surely youse is not trying to suggest that, after all the other white bankers left the table and you were the only white one left, the black guys thought you were 'one of them'!?!

Color me confused.

P.S. If posting under the new nom de plume was intended to provide cover..... it ain't gonna work!


Gringal

Apr 20, 2009, 1:25 PM

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All tongue-in-cheeking aside, Georgia...........I think we should just be ourselves instead of trying to look like someone from another culture. Those who attempt it generally look....strange.

We don't need to look like we're dressing out of the J.Crew catalog and get a unisex haircut if we're female.. There are many ways for women to look good while being comfortable in these parts.
Men: same thing.

(This post was edited by Gringal on Apr 20, 2009, 1:31 PM)


Brigitte Ordoquy

Apr 20, 2009, 1:38 PM

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Willie1

Apr 20, 2009, 1:47 PM

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When my hair used to be quite a bit longer, I could wear it "up" and one day while standing in front of Bancomer, a lady came up to me and started speaking to me in Spanish, even though I am as white as Wonder Bread! I was so thrilled to have been taken for a local BUT the minute I opened my mouth, the gig was up...jejeje. Now I just try to dress similarly as the locals and look appropiate to the occasion.
I would love to wear the regional dress fo many parts of the country and at times, I do but for the most part you do not see any of the women around Mazatlan wearing the indigenous styles unless to a special party.

Willie


Gringal

Apr 20, 2009, 1:55 PM

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Both the Italian movie and the banking example cited by the Dawg date back to the 1970's. This does not mean that the examples have no relevancy to today's issues, but society does change in a 40 year period.

Our local publications contain current examples of reportage and articles by expats referring to the Gringo population in a matter of fact way as "Gringos". No offense was intended and I doubt any was taken.

I have had a few female acquaintances who got quicksanded into the PC terms insisted upon in the womens' movement back in the 70's. You could not even call a woman a "lady" without being chastised. Thank hevvins there was a mellowing out in the last four decades. Some of them are still at it, though.

Georgia's topic is about another matter entirely. Trying to pass for Mexican. Maybe we can also talk about Mexicans who dye their hair blond because????? Beats me. I think everyone looks just fine the way they are.

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Gringal

Apr 20, 2009, 2:29 PM

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Had a chuckle over that one, Willie. I still have long hair and wear it "up" since it's easier for me to take care of and cooler in the summer months. And, like you, my jig was up when I was addressed in Spanish.

The toughest thing about acquiring facility in the language is that when I get up my courage and address someone....the response comes back at blinding speed. HELP!

I imagine that the Mexicans going to the states have the same problem in reverse.

The great thing about humanity, though, is that when people really want and need to communicate, they do manage. Not perfectly, perhaps, but well enough.


Georgia


Apr 20, 2009, 2:41 PM

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Well, I suppose you all missed my point, which is kind of the ability to laugh at ourselves and the cultural "norms" in Mexico vs. the US. When I was a kid I lived in Spain. (Part of my background is family in Cadiz.) One of the most popular plays at the time involved an American family living in Madrid. The audience howled when the American husband came out on stage wearing madras Bermudas and sat down with his family to eat dinner in the kitchen while the maids ate in the dining room. (Commonly referred to in local real estate ads as the "dinning room" which in the case of my family which is vast (we have 10 kids) is an absolutely accurate description of the place where we all ate each night.)

Anyway ... I'm not talking about ethnic dress or any of that. Just the differences in appearance choices that set us apart ... and are often amusing. Not racism. Not pointing nasty fingers, just a chuckle at our varying sense of "fashion."

Example: I despise wearing hats. I am having some issues with my skin and have to stay out of the sun. I don't want to stay out of the sun. So, when I'm meandering about in Tlaquepaque I carry an umbrella of small size (so it will fit between the buildings and the telephone poles on the sidewalk). My Mexican girlfriend saw me one day and commented that I looked like some "old Mexican lady" troopsing along with my black umbrella. I replied that my next step would be to have a heavy henna job on my gray roots. It was not taken as anything but friendly twitter and we chuckled. That kind of thing.

But I guess we can't laugh at ourselves .... too bad. I am strongly in the camp of being politically incorrect at times.


Gringal

Apr 20, 2009, 2:56 PM

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I don't know about others, but my take on Georgia's point was that we shouldn't take ourselves too seriously in this country.... or anywhere else.

We're all a bit awkward living in a new country where we haven't a clue much of the time. That's no crime. Most of our ancestors arrived in the U.S. speaking a foreign language well and English poorly. Plus, they usually dressed "funny" and were utterly clueless about the folks who were already here. I have family pictures that are a never-ending source of smiles.

Very few of us are likely to pass for anything other than what we are. So, we should relax and have a laugh on ourselves when we can. Good for the health.


Rolly


Apr 20, 2009, 3:09 PM

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I wear a hat almost all the time. Around here only farmers/ranchers wear hats (not caps), so I have been asked several time if I live on a rancho.

Rolly Pirate


Georgia


Apr 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

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My husband bought his "man bag" 21 years ago in Ecuador. Still in good shape - and very convenient when he has documents to carry. Somehow in upstate New York it was not a suitable fashion statement. He took a lot of heat for it plus his pony tail which absolutely turned the local country folk frothy at the mouth - some volunteered to cut it for him, one guy in a hotel elevator in Texas actually asked him how much he save a year on haircuts. What a shame he didn't have his "man bag" with him - he could have smacked the guy with it!

His Mexican dress suit has no vent in the back, like US jackets or Italian ones (which have TWO - must be all that garlic, but I digress....) anyway at a recent family wedding there was much discussion about his weird suit ... and his little pointy loafers.


Hound Dog

Apr 20, 2009, 5:14 PM

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Both the Italian movie and the banking example cited by the Dawg date back to the 1970's.

You will recall, of course, Gringal darlin that most of us posting around here were in our vigorous and exuberant youths in the 70s (and I don´t mean that as if we were actually "in" a youth if you get my drift although that was a constant and even lauditory goal in those days while we were ourselves young and in flower)during which time the movie The Garden of The Finzi-Continis (or whatever) was filmed. The movie was about a wealthy Italian family who lost everything to the nazis but refused to believe the inevitable destruction of the family as do we all rather foolishly. My darlin wife whom I admire and respect beyond my ability to express that emotion, decided that I had used indiscretionary powers in posting under her name controversial positions and she elected to erase all of my erudite soundings so some of your responses may sound like barking at the wind but that´s your problem now isn´t it?


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Gringal

Apr 20, 2009, 6:15 PM

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ROFLMAO. Your darlin' wife had a point when she deleted your wolf-in-lambs coat....

Barkin' at the wind is somewhat refreshing. Unless the "wind" is of another's "breaking".

Now y'all behave yourself and post under your own colors so the mod can delete you on your own merits, if so deserved.

I believe I saw that movie, but at our age, m'dear, we have to google to remember the plot. Just for nostalgia's sake, remember that sweet little Surf Theatre with all the foreign movies in S.F.?
They even had fresh popcorn, instead of the stuff they repop in a machine after importing it from Taiwan on a slow freighter.


morgaine7


Apr 20, 2009, 7:11 PM

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Well, I look obviously foreign and am taller than most Mexicans of either gender, so I don't even try to "pass". Nor do I color my graying hair as most Mexican women do here. My car doesn't have AC, so I'm usually pretty windblown by the time I get anywhere, and I dress on the casual side, in much looser clothing than is common among Mexican women. Still, while no one is likely to take me for a Mexican, I don't seem to attract stares or be mistaken for a tourist.

For men, it seems almost more difficult. Shorts or a beard almost always indicate a foreigner, at least in my area. Ditto for clean white tennis shoes with sweat socks.

"I'm a tourist" garb: Tevas, fanny packs, big floppy hats or those things that cover the neck in the back. Ditto for having a tan in winter, when we locals are in North Pole gear.

We're giving a lot of attention to looks, but there are other ways of calling attention to oneself. I've noticed over the years ... not only in Mexico ... that Americans abroad tend to speak very loudly in public. I don't think it's intentional, so I consciously try to avoid doing it. Also, as far as I know, nowhere in the world but the US do people cut a bite of steak or whatever, put the knife down, then pick up the fork and eat with the same hand. This practice was hooted out of me by European friends back in the '70s.

Kate


Anonimo

Apr 21, 2009, 1:56 AM

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I live on a rancho, soy güero, pelón, siempre llevo sombrero. Not much chance of being mistaken for a Mexican.

Saludos,
Anonimo


Georgia


Apr 21, 2009, 7:20 AM

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Exactly, Grangal. I was raised in both cultures, and am aware (sometimes unfortunately not) of the differences. Example: when my older daughter and I are out and about in town, we walk arm in arm. We meet and greet friends, and there is a great deal of hugging and kissing. We talk and gossip differently, and often in a very low voice. We both wear our clothing tighter than is the norm in the US. (Husband approves. Daughter said I used to look like my butt was falling off, or some such thing.) My "fancy" goin' out on the town clothing here is not appropriate for upstate New York, where we lived for some time.

Recently I had to go to three events in the north, and I truly had nothing to wear that was appropriate. Had to buy a couple of dresses. Then, again, here women of a "certain age" wear the suit. Now, I am personally not into this particular attire, but it is a double knit polyester sort of a thing with a shapeless, collarless jacket, mid calf skirt , or straight legged pants, and a blouse worn underneath. I honest to god saw a lady dressed in "the suit" -lime green - with two of her girlfriends up at the top of the mountain at El Rosario to see the Monarch butterflies. She was also wearing stockings and strappy high heeled sandals! I have no idea how she trekked up there in that outfit, but she did it. Personally, I was awestruck. She was at least my age and looked as if she were strolling through the Gran Plaza. I noticed this threesome while I wa checking my pulse.

Another difference here: at relatively dressy occasions you often see a gentleman wearing slacks and a fancy, well-ironed and starched guayabera. No suit jacket and tie. It's common throughout northern South America as well as in the Phillipines. My husband has adopted this style of dress, since he finds it more practical in this climate. He has also mastered the male to male Mexican backslap/hug.

Older Mexican women tend to wear more makeup all the time than NOB women. And both men and women are more likely to dye their hair. And then there is the footwear: have you ever seen a Mexican guy in the city whose shoes are not polished?

The plainness that many NOB women adopt is viewed by city women here as somewhat odd.

My comments are mostly in regard to city life, not village life. Although, some village women are puzzled that some perceived "wealthy" Americans for whom they clean house appear so plain.

Many of us have probably adopted some of these differences without even realizing we have done it. My bet is that most guys prefer the guayabera over the suit and tie under any and all circumstances.


Marlene


Apr 21, 2009, 2:07 PM

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The spikey heels! Definitely the heels. One of my Mexican friends emphatically told me that tennis shoes (sneakers, running shoes) were for exercising. Go figure.


Georgia


Apr 21, 2009, 2:18 PM

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It's those training wheels. And how many tourists do you see wearing high heels? I've observed lately that one of the new universals in footwear is the flip flop ... even among young people here.


Gringal

Apr 21, 2009, 2:25 PM

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LOL. I call those "Minnie Mouse" shoes. Makes a size 6 foot look like a size 10.
For the total "look", add a pair of flowered stretch capris, a belly bag and a slightly tight tee shirt.


kathleengam

Apr 21, 2009, 5:13 PM

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I confess, when I first came here to manage a plant in Mexico, the only female manager in the company, I was so overlyanxious to be identified with the global leaders' team that I did everything I could think of to "blend in" here and at the same time make myself more obviously different at corporate. Heavy, dangling chandelier earrings (before they came into style) with faux jewels were probably my most ridiculous offense. I cringe now at a picture of me making a presentation at corporate in a business suit with those heavy, cheap-looking earrings and I'd replaced the jacket with a Mayan embroidered vest. I was also fond of those bright-colored gauzey tops that looked like maternity blouses on me. I'm grateful no one laughed in my face during that first year. I'm told I was also a little heavy-handed with the spicey perfume during that time. Finally got over that stage, realized that being a pale skinned bottle blonde I was never going to completely blend in, and that was fine. I just dress now as I always have. We get a number of women visitors from corporate I've seen that over the years most of the women who work for me in Mexico have changed the way they dress and there seems to be no difference in the way they dress and the women from corporate. Haven't found a single hairdresser here that understands blonde hair, as long as it isn't flourescent peach or snow white (I've had both), I try not to get hysterical. Although I was never was tempted to mimick Mexican women's heavy makeup, particularly the dark lip liner and eye makeup, I still haven't given up the spray on sunless tan though.


Georgia


Apr 21, 2009, 7:27 PM

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The hair color thing is a problem. I buy my color NOB to have my hairdresser use here. No offense taken. It's just that purple hair just doesn't look good on me.


kathleengam

Apr 21, 2009, 8:18 PM

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You know, I never thought of that!


La Isla


Apr 21, 2009, 9:11 PM

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When my hair used to be quite a bit longer, I could wear it "up" and one day while standing in front of Bancomer, a lady came up to me and started speaking to me in Spanish, even though I am as white as Wonder Bread! I
Willie


I´m not as white as Wonder Bread, though I´m still paler than most Mexicans even when I get a tan. And though I´m on the short side and try to not commit any fashion faux-pas when I´m out in public, several Mexican friends have assured me that I´d never be mistaken for a Mexican woman "of a certain age" (hmm, maybe if I dyed my silver hair dark brown, the way it used to be...). Anyway, both in my neighborhood and other parts of the D.F. that I frequent, I am often addressed in Spanish, usually when someone needs directions or the time. My Spanish is good, so I rather enjoy these brief interactions with total strangers. I think this happens a lot because my appearance doesn´t scream gringa tourist, because I am at home here and seem to know what I´m doing and where I´m going. What do all of you think about this?


Georgia


Apr 23, 2009, 9:46 AM

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Aha! So... why doesn't your appearance scream gringa tourist? That was partially the gist of my original post, which was also meant in fun. Many Mexicans, especially those of strictly Spanish background (and they even go back to Spain to seek out wives or husbands) are quite fair. When I lived in Spain I was assumed to be Spanish because I had jet black hair and very white skin, not an unusualy combination, especially in the northern provinces.

Hair: The women's Mexican style that is most typical, even into middle age and beyond, and which is strikingly good looking, is pulled straight back in a pony tail at the neck, with some sort of frou frou thingie for special occasions. Stunning. But the hair is almost always dyed.

City wear: just like NYC, black pants, summer or winter. Or jeans. Summer or winter. (And then there are those double knit polyester things that I don't like.) And why is this? Well, for one thing, your clothing gets dirty in the city and black or navy doesn't show the dirt. It's practical, fashionable and goes with everything.

Those high heels: yup, but not for touring around and long walks. High heeled sandals are another matter - they are worn all the time. Strappy things.

Eye makeup: daily, not an option! Ditto for lipstick and lipliner.

I swear the pony tail thing prevents wrinkles!!

My post never suggested anyone TRY to look Mexican, but to ask what makes people, apart from the physical appearance they were born with, look Mexican. And if you live here full time and want to assimilate, you might want to think about that.


La Isla


Apr 23, 2009, 1:21 PM

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Aha! So... why doesn't your appearance scream gringa tourist? That was partially the gist of my original post, which was also meant in fun.


I've thought about that from time to time. Maybe it's because I don't feel or act like a tourist. In my neighborhood, when I'm out and about, I'm doing what everyone else does: shopping for food, going to the bank or post office, leaving my dirty laundry at the laundromat or having a cappuccino at my favorite Lebanese sidewalk café. Though I don't ever wear heels, I do try to dress neatly (no shorts, for example) and check the little bit of makeup I wear and my hair before stepping out the door.


jennifer rose

Apr 23, 2009, 8:19 PM

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1. Full makeup, including bright eye shadow and eyeliner. Mandatory during all waking hours. There are no exceptions.

2. Manicure and pedicure. See above.

3. Hair dyed. Highlights as well as lowlights.

4. Jewelry. When in doubt, be sure to add another piece. Too much is never enough.

5. At least one item that is an identifiable name brand, e.g. Coach, Burberry, Fendi, Gucci. Mostly frequently this item is a purse.

6. Clothing is crisply and freshly ironed.

7. Clothing is worn at least a size smaller than would be acceptable in the U.S. Oversize and baggy clothing hollers "gringo."

8. Fragrance.

9. Shoes with some kind of heel. Clodhoppers and gym shoes shout "gringo."


bournemouth

Apr 24, 2009, 6:23 AM

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No doubt about it - I will never pass for anything other than a foreigner - and you know what, it doesn't matter because that is what I am.


Georgia


Apr 24, 2009, 6:39 AM

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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and except for the oversized name brand purse part (which I leave to my daughter), I assimilate .... when in Guadalajara. Lakeside: a little more casual. (I admit that when going out, I carry my "dress" shoes in an attractive bag if I have to walk any distance, and wear strappy sandals with a shorter heel, then put on the high heels at the event. Being somewhat equilibrium challenged on uneven sidewalks.)

Even the concierge at our apartment up there always has on full makeup and she's about 80. I think she had her eyebrows sort of tatooed on - they are ALWAYS perfect. A lot of women have permanent eyeliner done.

And, having been a country mouse for awhile: it's kind of fun! I remember when I first started to work at my last job (a government job) one of the other female attorneys referred to me as "the dutchess" because I (a) wore makeup (b) had my hair colored (c) wore high heels and stockings (d) always wore a suit or dress. It was not a compliment. Here, it would have been considered normal. I eventually started wearing khakis and low heeled shoes, let my hair go white, but could never entirely give up the suit jacket and some makeup. It was kind of an L.L. Bean look. I skipped the fragrance because the person who worked next to me was allergic to .......... life, I guess. Casual frump seemed to be the dress du jour. One adapts.


Carron

Apr 25, 2009, 9:05 AM

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This describes my Mexican daughter-in-law to a "T" although she has lived in Texas since she was a baby. Especially the name brands!! I am always alarmed at what she pays not only for her own clothing but for my son's and the two grandson's. I used to think it was just her way of compensating for the fact her parents had been very poor illegal immigrants 30 years ago, both from a rural village in Guerrero, her mother a housekeeper and her father a landscape laborer. Guess there is more to it than that.


Judy in Ags


Apr 25, 2009, 10:30 AM

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Early on in our time in Mexico, my husband asked our good Mexican friend (perhaps partially in jest) what he could do to look more like a Mexican. Our friend replied, "Nada." We've laughed about that so many times. With my very white hair, I just go around sticking out in any crowd. Well, anyway, it's easy for my husband to spot me if we get separated.


Georgia


Apr 25, 2009, 12:20 PM

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It's a hispanic thing. When I lived in Spain everyone I knew had a least one knockout outfit that could be customized. In those days we had our clothing made to order; name brands were not that popular. But all the girls and women I knew sported at least one very chic outfit right down to the gloves and, in those days, hats.


Carron

Apr 25, 2009, 1:13 PM

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"Casual frump" is definitely my ranch look. Also the way I look in town if I am not running errands. My Mexican, name-brand daughter-in-law, mentioned in another post on this thread, bought me a ton of "casual chic" clothes for this past Christmas from the store where she works in the women's better dresses department. I definitely got her hint that I really should try to dress better, but . . . . I do try to wear them when I am in town or cross into Texas.

In really hot weather I slip into one of those touristy cotton patio dresses with bright embroidery or appliqued parrots. Cool and comfortable and cheerful. I always wore them in Houston. Once Hubby and I ran into a business friend of his there and the other man was simply appalled at my dress. "My wife wears one of those for her night gown," he blushed. I might as well have been naked.

No way I, with blue eyes and straight, stringy, natural blonde grey hair, will ever pass for a Mexican. Although especially in winter when I wear jeans,well-worn boots, a flannel shirt over a T-shirt, and a knitted watch cap I do dress like most of the women in the village near the ranch.

Hubby, on the other hand, is dark, chubby, with short grey hair and dark brown eyes. Lots of Native American blood from his mother's side. He always wears jeans with a long-sleeved cowboy shirt and a rancher's straw hat. He has a good Mexican friend, also from Coahuila, who is a rancher and goat farmer. Once or twice a year they get together for drinks and each ritually buys the other a new hat. Sometimes on special occasions he wears slacks with a guayabera shirt. Boots; almost never tennis shoes. Sandals and shorts only at home. He tends to speak softly and is generally self-effacing. Often people speak to him in Spanish and are surprised when he responds "lo siento, pero yo hablo espanol muy poquito."


sparks


Apr 25, 2009, 4:18 PM

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What a bizarre thread. I avoided it because it was either a woman thing or an aimless conversation starter. This should have been asked to 'Ask a Mexican' in the Dear Abby sort of way

This is like the advice of never wear shorts in the highlands and don't go topless on the beaches. Burmudas, black knee socks and wing-tips are my only no-no

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Georgia


Apr 25, 2009, 4:25 PM

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Clearly, Sparks, you are not a girl, and I thank you to the bottom of my extremities for not wearing wing tips..... anywhere. And I am especially grateful that you don't wear them with Bermudas and black knee socks. Now, I will admit that my husband has worn white Bermudas and black knee socks at a semi formal event in Bermuda: and it was the norm.

But, it's not all that bizarre ... if you noted my comment about assimilation.

Gotta admit: beach life is different from city life. We all make our choices. One of them is whether we wish to assimilate .... or not. Personally, I am of the chameleon variety, except where values are concerned.


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Apr 25, 2009, 4:52 PM

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I went to see my cardiologist today. There were three women in the office, one working there and two in the waiting room. All had on shorts. So did I The youngest was 30 something. The temp was 37°C/99°F.

Rolly Pirate


Gringal

Apr 25, 2009, 4:55 PM

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But Sparks...it livened up the joint, and sometimes, that's enough.

If you don't sport wingtips, you're A-okay in my book. lol.


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But the real question is whether or not they had their eyeliner on!! Here at Lake Chapala a lot of people, Mexican and foreigners, wear shorts. It's considered a tourism destination officially by the government. Something like a papal dispensation. I would think the same criteria applies at 99 degrees! Now here is the big question, Rolly: did you have shorts on???? Curious minds need to know


Rolly


Apr 25, 2009, 5:08 PM

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I said "So did I." I will wear shorts 100% from now until late October. Inside our compound, I don't wear pants at all.

Rolly Pirate


Georgia


Apr 25, 2009, 5:15 PM

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Wow! Go, Rolly!


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Apr 26, 2009, 5:52 AM

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You've never hear of Rolly's muumuus

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Georgia


Apr 26, 2009, 7:38 AM

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Sparky, aren't you the one who called this thread bizarre?? I am getting a mental picture of this whole business that is worrisome.


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Better a muumuu than a tutu. :-)

Saludos,
Anonimo


chinagringo


Apr 26, 2009, 9:00 AM

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Maybe it is time for the introduction of the "classic men's sarong"?
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Neil
Albuquerque, NM

 
 
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